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Nashville Predators signed Ryan Johansen (8 Years / $8,000,000 AAV)

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Jul. 28, 2017 at 4:10 p.m.
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Ryan Johansen has signed a new contract with the Nashville Predators.
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SIGNED BY: David Poile
Length: 8 years
Value: $64,000,000
Expiry Status: UFA
Cap % Tooltip: 10.67
Signing Team: Logo of the Nashville PredatorsNashville Predators
Signing Date: Jul. 28, 2017
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Ryan Johansen signed a 8 year, $64,000,000 contract with the Nashville Predators on Jul. 28, 2017. The contract has a cap hit of $8,000,000.

SEASONClauseCap HitTooltipAAV TooltipP. BonusesTooltipS. BonusesTooltipBase SalaryTooltipTotal SalaryTooltipMinors SalTooltip
2017-18$8,000,000$8,000,000$0$0$8,000,000$8,000,000$8,000,000
2018-19$8,000,000$8,000,000$0$0$8,000,000$8,000,000$8,000,000
2019-20$8,000,000$8,000,000$0$0$8,000,000$8,000,000$8,000,000
2020-21$8,000,000$8,000,000$0$0$8,000,000$8,000,000$8,000,000
2021-22$8,000,000$8,000,000$0$0$8,000,000$8,000,000$8,000,000
2022-23$8,000,000$8,000,000$0$0$8,000,000$8,000,000$8,000,000
2023-24$8,000,000$8,000,000$0$0$8,000,000$8,000,000$8,000,000
2024-25$8,000,000$8,000,000$0$0$8,000,000$8,000,000$8,000,000
TOTAL$64,000,000$64,000,000$0$0$64,000,000$64,000,000$64,000,000
This contract was involved in a retained salary transaction
Jul. 28, 2017 at 4:29 p.m.
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Big money but for 8 years. Another great deal for the Preds. One team that is finally doing the salary cap right.
Jul. 28, 2017 at 4:46 p.m.
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Jul. 28, 2017 at 4:50 p.m.
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Tied for 14th in the league
Free of NMC

Pretty solid.

Minnesota just punched themselves in the nether regions . Mikael Granlund just got a little more expensive
Jul. 28, 2017 at 5:30 p.m.
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You can thank McJesus for driving up most everyone else's prices. Good for Nashville to have half their team on bargain contracts.
Jul. 28, 2017 at 6:24 p.m.
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No, not a great signing ... he's a great player but 8 MILLION DOLLARS? wow ...
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Jul. 28, 2017 at 6:25 p.m.
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No, not a great signing ... he's a great player but 8 MILLION DOLLARS? wow ...


He's worth it, as the graph supports
Jul. 28, 2017 at 6:28 p.m.
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No, not a great signing ... he's a great player but 8 MILLION DOLLARS? wow ...


He's worth it, as the graph supports


i have no idea how to read those stats ... and 8 million dollars is what you give a guy like Pastrnak.
Jul. 28, 2017 at 6:29 p.m.
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He's worth it, as the graph supports


i have no idea how to read those stats ... and 8 million dollars is what you give a guy like Pastrnak.


Here's how : http://hockeyviz.com/howto/skaterCard
Jul. 28, 2017 at 6:36 p.m.
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No, not a great signing ... he's a great player but 8 MILLION DOLLARS? wow ...


He's their bonafide 1C, and Nashville has the cap space to pay him.

Here's other players around that price point:

Voracek
Parise
Kessel
Nash
Spezza
O'Rielly

RJ is definitely on the level of most of these guys (I'd take him over Spezza, ROR, Pairse, and Nash)
Jul. 28, 2017 at 7:11 p.m.
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No, not a great signing ... he's a great player but 8 MILLION DOLLARS? wow ...


He's their bonafide 1C, and Nashville has the cap space to pay him.

Here's other players around that price point:

Voracek
Parise
Kessel
Nash
Spezza
O'Rielly

RJ is definitely on the level of most of these guys (I'd take him over Spezza, ROR, Pairse, and Nash)


yeah, he's a 1C but i thought he'd get more like 6.6M, not 8M.
Jul. 28, 2017 at 7:12 p.m.
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i have no idea how to read those stats ... and 8 million dollars is what you give a guy like Pastrnak.


Here's how : http://hockeyviz.com/howto/skaterCard

i'm not gonna read this whole thing, and i'm sure these stats show he's great, but EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS.
Jul. 28, 2017 at 7:24 p.m.
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i'm not gonna read this whole thing, and i'm sure these stats show he's great, but EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS.

Number one centermen ain't cheap. This is still a solid signing for Nashville
Jul. 28, 2017 at 7:25 p.m.
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i'm not gonna read this whole thing, and i'm sure these stats show he's great, but EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS.


It literally explains how to read the chart. Basically he is putting up great top line stats while passing more than perceived
Jul. 28, 2017 at 7:52 p.m.
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i'm not gonna read this whole thing, and i'm sure these stats show he's great, but EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS.


Did you read the comparable guys I listed at $8 million?
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Jul. 29, 2017 at 7:33 p.m.
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Jul. 29, 2017 at 9:13 p.m.
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i'm not gonna read this whole thing, and i'm sure these stats show he's great, but EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS.


It literally explains how to read the chart. Basically he is putting up great top line stats while passing more than perceived


still though ... 8M ... that's what you give a guy like OEL.
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Jul. 31, 2017 at 8:05 a.m.
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Edited Jul. 31, 2017 at 8:11 a.m.
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He's their bonafide 1C, and Nashville has the cap space to pay him.

Here's other players around that price point:

Voracek
Parise
Kessel
Nash
Spezza
O'Rielly

RJ is definitely on the level of most of these guys (I'd take him over Spezza, ROR, Pairse, and Nash)


You'd take him over those guys only because most of them are past their prime... Johansen will be 33 by the time this contract is over, and never once has he score point-per-game pace at the NHL level. Spezza at 25 was scoring at about a 100 point pace and had been for three consecutive seasons. Nash was a 40 goal scorer at 25.

Most of the guys on your list are overpaid, which just proves the point that Johansen is also overpaid.
Jul. 31, 2017 at 9:26 a.m.
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He's their bonafide 1C, and Nashville has the cap space to pay him.

Here's other players around that price point:

Voracek
Parise
Kessel
Nash
Spezza
O'Rielly

RJ is definitely on the level of most of these guys (I'd take him over Spezza, ROR, Pairse, and Nash)


You'd take him over those guys only because most of them are past their prime... Johansen will be 33 by the time this contract is over, and never once has he score point-per-game pace at the NHL level. Spezza at 25 was scoring at about a 100 point pace and had been for three consecutive seasons. Nash was a 40 goal scorer at 25.

Most of the guys on your list are overpaid, which just proves the point that Johansen is also overpaid.


Every player on that list signed a contract for nearly 12% of the current salary cap. Johansen is 10.6% of the cap hit for EIGHT YEARS. Spezza's current was for a larger percent and its only for 4 years. His previous contract from '08 was nearly 14% of the cap at the time and was only for 7 years.

Yes its an 8M cap hit, but you have to realize that contracts signed 5 years ago are completely different when put into context. Don't compare all of those 7-9M contracts that were singed years ago to the ones being singed today. If you want to do that then at 13% of today's salary cap like those other guys signed, Johansen would have gotten 9.5-10M per year. This is a decent signing today and a great signing in 2-3 years.

He is absolutely a bonafide #1C and likely will be until the end of his contract.
Jul. 31, 2017 at 3:07 p.m.
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I'm more shocked that this contract didn't come with any kind of no-trade or no-movement clause. I'm guessing he sacrificed that for more cash.
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Jul. 31, 2017 at 3:37 p.m.
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He's their bonafide 1C, and Nashville has the cap space to pay him.

Here's other players around that price point:

Voracek
Parise
Kessel
Nash
Spezza
O'Rielly

RJ is definitely on the level of most of these guys (I'd take him over Spezza, ROR, Pairse, and Nash)


You'd take him over those guys only because most of them are past their prime... Johansen will be 33 by the time this contract is over, and never once has he score point-per-game pace at the NHL level. Spezza at 25 was scoring at about a 100 point pace and had been for three consecutive seasons. Nash was a 40 goal scorer at 25.

Most of the guys on your list are overpaid, which just proves the point that Johansen is also overpaid.


It's all about when the contract was signed. The cap has gone up by $25 million in the last 10 years alone, but the number of players per team is remaining the same. That means players are going to be getting larger and larger contracts.
May 24, 2018 at 6:08 p.m.
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He's worth it, as the graph supports


Or maybe he isn't

Or, after this playoff, maybe he is.
 
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