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Ian Mendes thinks Chychrun is worth the same as Mangiapane or Kuzmenko

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Team: 2024-25 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: May 23, 2024
Published: May 23, 2024
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"If the Flames are really keen on Chychrun and a deal for Markstrom falls through, maybe there is a path to a one-for-one deal involving someone like Mangiapane or Kuzmenko. They could both be nice fits as wingers inside Ottawa’s middle six and fill the void left by Vladimir Tarasenko and Alex DeBrincat."
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    May 23 at 5:58 p.m.
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    Mangiapane is a borderline negative asset. He’s overpaid.

    Kuzmenko and Mangiapane aren’t worth anywhere near Chychrun
    May 23 at 5:58 p.m.
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    Mangiapane would be such a good get
    May 23 at 5:59 p.m.
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    An exchange of upcoming UFAs....that's kinda of a fair deal in some ways, though it really doesn't help both teams in the long run.
    Gotta think Chychrun is worth more than Mango and Kuzmenko.
    Sens best return might be at TDL for Chychrun for a team that needs a retained Dman.
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    May 23 at 6:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
    Mangiapane would be such a good get


    Nah he’s a good 3rd liner making almost 6 mill
    May 23 at 6:10 p.m.
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    Kuzmenko might be worth close to Chychrun, since both can produce offense, but are questionable defensively. Kuzmenko needs to be more consistent while Chychrun is injury prone and needs to prove he can stay healthy

    Mangiapane is a very good two-way forward, but yeah, he’s over paid by at least $1.3-1.8mil/yr given his lack of goal production over the past 2 seasons

    Definitely need to add something to Mang and possibly a sweetener to Kuzmenko, but given the Flames lack a High End finisher and how well Kuzmenko produced for them, they should only sell high on him unless he won’t extend for whatever reason

    I’m not high on Chychrun personally. I’d rather find a Big Mean D-Man and see what Poirier & Kylington can do for us on the Left side offensively. Weegar, Andersson & Miromanov are all offensively talented already with Brzustewicz a Future Offensive Top Prospect for the Flames already as well. IOW - We need more of a Stay at Home/Defensive/Penalty Killing Specialist to replace Tanev at this time
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    May 23 at 6:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: KingofRnR
    Kuzmenko might be worth close to Chychrun, since both can produce offense, but are questionable defensively. Kuzmenko needs to be more consistent while Chychrun is injury prone and needs to prove he can stay healthy

    Mangiapane is a very good two-way forward, but yeah, he’s over paid by at least $1.3-1.8mil/yr given his lack of goal production over the past 2 seasons

    Definitely need to add something to Mang and possibly a sweetener to Kuzmenko, but given the Flames lack a High End finisher and how well Kuzmenko produced for them, they should only sell high on him unless he won’t extend for whatever reason

    I’m not high on Chychrun personally. I’d rather find a Big Mean D-Man and see what Poirier & Kylington can do for us on the Left side offensively. Weegar, Andersson & Miromanov are all offensively talented already with Brzustewicz a Future Offensive Top Prospect for the Flames already as well. IOW - We need more of a Stay at Home/Defensive/Penalty Killing Specialist to replace Tanev at this time


    I mean Chych just played a full 82 so that's proving it.
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    May 23 at 6:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: csick
    Nah he’s a good 3rd liner making almost 6 mill


    I'd bank on him being better than a good 3rd liner - he already is in my books. Dude's defensive game is unreal and he doesn't have any major shortcomings. I'd more than happily pluck him in my top 6. Cap maybe isn't ideal for one year, but he's the type of guy that would be a shrewd pickup for a contender as a missing piece to put them over the edge, imo. Really like that player.
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    May 23 at 6:36 p.m.
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    we really just need picks for Chychrun, enough win now bull crap where we get some mediocre pending UFA and then he walks.
    May 23 at 6:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: StutzlesNumber1Fan
    I mean Chych just played a full 82 so that's proving it.

    Sure and Mangiapane scored 35 Goals once too, so he’s proven he’s a 35 goal scorer now too by your logic
    May 23 at 6:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: KingofRnR
    Sure and Mangiapane scored 35 Goals once too, so he’s proven he’s a 35 goal scorer now too by your logic


    You make no sense man lol. You said Chych needs to prove he can stay healthy and he literally just did that..
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    May 23 at 6:57 p.m.
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    Edited May 23 at 11:06 p.m.
    Quoting: StutzlesNumber1Fan
    You make no sense man lol. You said Chych needs to prove he can stay healthy and he literally just did that..

    Doesn’t negate his knee surgeries and injury history. Besides, the goal is to make the post season, so he’s still overrated and injury prone therefore has more to do yet and prove in my eyes before he’s worth a premium in Trade
    May 23 at 7:51 p.m.
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    Mangi for Chychrun sounds good.
     
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