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Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 11, 2017 at 11:26 a.m.
Thread: 2 - 2018 - Deadline Moves then Playoffs
I don't think Backlund's contract is going to be that much of an issue. Treliving is an expert at talking his returning players down to reasonable contracts. He did so with Monahan, Gaudreau, Hamilton, Giordano and Bennett. With the Giordano and Gaudreau contracts, Calgary has built an internal salary limit, as players will not be paid more than these guys, at least until Tkachuk needs a new deal. Backlund knows his role as the #2 C on the team and I'm sure Treliving can talk him into accepting a long term deal in the 6M range, which would be a great deal for Backlund as well. Frolik's contract is really good as well, and this trade wouldn't make Calgary any better now, and it's unlikely that a low 1st round pick from NY will turn into a player of Backlund's calibre down the road.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 7, 2017 at 11:40 a.m.
Thread: thats it
As a Flames fan, that seems like too much for Duchene. If Sakic had traded Duchene at the start of the Summer I could see him get something like this, but not this late. Bennett is a former top-5 pick who has the potential to turn into a 2-way version of Duchene (very good #2 Centre/decent #1 Centre) and both of those D prospects are very highly regarded in Calgary. I don't think Calgary would want to trade 2 of their top-4 defensive prospects, all of whom look really good, and any deal with Calgary would likely only include one of them and draft picks. Again Sakic could have gotten something like that earlier but all the teams know that Duchene has gone from "trade chip" to "have to deal him" and that desperation hurts his value. Should have taken the NYI deal with Hamonic and picks.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 24, 2017 at 9:22 a.m.
Thread: Leaf Fans?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>trdeJong</b></div><div>Sorry but going to have to put a stop to this... Caletti12 your fired! LOL

Flames will not give you Stone (yes a top 4 D-man - played with TJ last year after acquired 2nd pair - and did well!) plus Kylington and a 2nd round pick for a LW (and good LW) to play RW!!! Just because some guys can switch LW and RW does not mean every winger can do this.... Even if he can play RW... He will be an UFA looking for a big raise at the end of the year and Calgary has some guys of our own to resign over the next 2 years...

So... thanks but no thanks... ; )</div></div>

If you're so scared about putting a LW at RW then he and Versteeg can swap spots. I don't see how this DOESN'T work for CGY. Stone is a good dman but his contract is going to make it hard for guys like Andersson and Kylington and Valimaki and Fox to crack the lineup, so why keep him and all these great prospects if there will only be a spot for one of them over the next three years. With Stone's contract gone and Stajan coming off the books, they'll have room to sign all their core players, and if all goes well with Gillies, Rittich and/or Parsons, Calgary could have a cheap, young tandem for a couple years. Looking ahead, Calgary doesn't have a real big issue until three years down the road. If they run into trouble before then, then they can move Brouwer's contract, which will become easier to do with each passing year. Trading Kylington is the cost of doing business, but he has become expendable with the addition of Valimaki. The 2nd round pick, will likely/hopefully be a low pick, given CGY's expectations, and 2nd round picks typically have about a 50% chance of making the NHL. So CGY moves out salary, makes room for young players and spends a potential top-4 dman and a 50% chance at another NHL player for a 28-year old, 30-goal, 60-point winger in his prime, to fill their biggest need. If you don't think that works for Calgary, then YOU'RE fired.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 22, 2017 at 1:18 p.m.
Thread: tkachuk to boston
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>Be interested to hear from the CGY fans, but I have to imagine this package doesn't get MT. I'm sure we have the pieces to acquire him, but would CGY really want more prospects for him?</div></div>

For starters, McQuaid isn't worth a lot to us. He'd end up as a 30 year old 5-6 Dman behind Giordano-Hamilton and Brodie-Hamonic. It wouldn't make sense for Calgary to add another defenseman especially with their organizational depth with guys like Kylington, Andersson, Valimaki and Fox. I don't know a lot about Vatrano, but considering he's 4-5 years older than Tkachuk, he's also a no. With the year he had and where Calgary is, I'd say he's virtually untouchable for Calgary, and the only time they'd move him to Boston would be in a deal involving Pastrnak. We can debate what the deal would look like and who would add more to the deal, but I don't think that sort of deal would make sense for either team. Boston knows what they have in Pastrnak and he doesn't have any character issues that would make them need to move him, and Calgary has an elite prospect in Tkachuk who can score, make plays, drive possession and supress shots who could blossom into as good a player as Pastrnak, if not better. So I don't think a deal with Boston for Tkachuk makes much sense.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 17, 2017 at 10:46 a.m.
Thread: Sens Fans?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>trdeJong</b></div><div>Stone is a solid RW'r but that price is way to high!

Maybe Kylington, Rittich and Foo plus a 2nd or 3rd as prospects where all 3 have a shot at cracking the line up?
- if Brouwer or Stajan are part of the deal thaen some retained Salary would be a must but don't see Sen's wanting Brouwer and think Calgary will want Stajan for his last year to mentor a few of our younger guys... Foo / Lazar / Janko...</div></div>

I'm a Flames fan that lives in Ottawa, and I can tell you that the Sens organization values Stone very highly, and rightly so. He might be the top two-way RW in the league and he brings very good offense. Given the organizational depth at Defence and in Goal, I would be comfortable giving up Kylington and Rittich, and Shinkaruk will have a difficult time cracking Calgary's lineup any time soon. The two picks, if all goes well, should be low in their respective rounds, and Calgary has the organizational depth and youth to skip a year or two at the draft. I think the team has enough veteran leadership that we can part with Stajan. It was the 3M line, not his that we would put out against the other team's top lines, and we would be better served with younger players with more energy on the 4th line. It's a lot to give up for one player, but if CGY wants to take advantage of their depth and trade for a potential 25 year old star RW, I would be comfortable with this deal.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 17, 2017 at 9:51 a.m.
Thread: Sens Fans?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Why would Ottawa be cap hell compared to Calgary? Seems to me that Calgary has way more cap issues the futture. Would think Ottawa would want some players(s) that are NHL good right now instead of cap dumps and futures.</div></div>

Right now Calgary has two important signings for the next two offseasons, being Backlund next season, and Tkachuk the year after. Three years from now is when it might get dicey with Frolik, Brodie and Hamonic needing new deals as well. What Calgary doesn't have is a big money, long term bad contract. They have Brouwer signed on a bad deal for the next three years, but his contract should be moveable if they absolutely have to, and a buyout wouldn't hurt them too much.

Ottawa is in a worse cap situation than Calgary, because they have two mammoth bad contracts in Ryan and Phaneuf. Unless they retain a lot of salary, those contracts are almost unmovable. When Karlsson signs for what many are expecting to be McDavid money, they will have him, Phaneuf and Ryan accounting for over 26M, or a 3rd of the salary cap. This is what will likely push out on of Stone, Turris and Anderson, who if signed and added to the EK, Ryan and Phaneuf contracts, will probably account for around 45M for those 6 players. Ceci will need a new deal as well, let's say he has a good year and gets decent top-4 money, that's another 4-5M. Throw in Hoffman, McArthur, Smith, Pageau and Condon, and that's around 66M for 12 players, leaving only 9M to sign 11 players. And that assumes they let Brassard go. That looks like cap hell to me.

CGY was able to get Monahan, Gaudreau, Hamilton and Giordano on team friendly deals, and if they can move Brouwer, they would have very few problems for the foreseeable future.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 16, 2017 at 2:28 p.m.
Thread: Leon Locked Up
Not 100% sure Chiarelli knows what he's doing here. He should know that after paying McDavid 12.5M per, Drasaitl's deal had to be more team friendly than this. He'll have the 9th biggest AAV among all skaters this season and he's had one good (albeit very good) year. The number should have been 7-7.5M. I don't think making a guy the highest paid player ever by 2M, then overpaying another by 1M is good business. Chicago hasn't made it out of the 1st round since Toews and Kane signed their big deals, and Bowman has by all accounts done a fairly masterful job of keeping them competitive even with the financial burden. Chiarelli isn't on the same level as Bowman and it will be interesting to see how he manages them going forward. They better win the cup this year, because after that they'll be in salary cap hell.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 16, 2017 at 9:28 a.m.
Thread: NJ Devils-Thoughts?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tadhockey</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DanteDevilsHockey</b></div><div>Don't know much about Kylington, but Brouwer could be a short term patch for the right side which is a weakness for us currently. Does Kylington have top 4 potential? These next two drafts claim to be 3 to almost 4 rounds deep so I would need more info on Kylington to answer a trade like this.</div></div>

Kylington is a former second round pick who is a RHD, and has two AHL seasons under his belt at just age 20. He was a former top prospect that fell for a variety of reasons, but mostly surrounding his skating. He's probably a year out from making the NHL, with the potential to be a #2 defenseman. He's one of the three heralded CGY defense prospects (Fox, Andersson, and Kylington).

I don't think it makes sense to trade Brouwer with that price tag. The second rounders are useful, but RD like Kylington don't grow on trees.</div></div>

I think you have Kylington mixed up with Andersson. Andersson is the RHD that has had concerns about his skating, Kylington is an excellent skater and a LHD in the mold of Erik Karlsson. He was a top-5 prospect at the start of his draft year but bounced around the SHL system and fell to CGY at pick 60. His absolute ceiling could be Erik Karlsson lite, probably not as good, but he has a similar skill set. He should become a top-4 puck-moving defenseman in the NHL, and is probably 1 or two years away. Andersson is probably more NHL ready, as he is better defensively and could find a role on a powerplay.

If New Jersey was up for this kind of deal I would be interested, it all depends on what kind of value CGY has on Kylington. I do agree that trading a defensive prospect is a good idea, however I'd rather see one traded for an actual asset, as opposed to more picks.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 14, 2017 at 8:59 p.m.
Thread: if Toronto wanted Tkachuck that Badly.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLSage</b></div><div>Not trolling just put a few players, on. Im more asking what would a Calgary fan accept as fair value. Since Nylander/Marner/Matthews are much better players.</div></div>

Well actually, Tkachuk had better shot generation and suppression stats than all three of Matthews, Nylander and Marner, as well as better playmaking stats (first assists) than all three, based on their HERO charts. All three of Matthews, Nylander and Marner had more all situation ice time than Tkachuk, so it's fair to assume that given a similar amount of ice time, Tkachuk would have similar point totals to those three. I'm not saying that Tkachuk is better than Matthews, but I am saying Matthews, as well as Nylander and Marner benefitted from more playing time than Tkachuk. It's also important to note that Tkachuk's line with Backlund and Frolik was the line that Calgary would put out against the other team's best players. To say that all three are much better players is simply not true, the truth is that at this point in their careers, Tkachuk is absolutely at the very least on the same level as Marner and Nylander. That being said, I wouldn't trade him one-for-one for either of them, as he brings just as high of a skill set to the game as Marner or Nylander, and plays with an edge that neither of them will likely ever develop in their respective games.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 14, 2017 at 1:37 p.m.
Thread: Maybe?
What?