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Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 18, 2022 at 11:42 a.m.

Thread: where dubas went wrong

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsradynasty</b></div><div>Good luck when he sits out. You only have so much leverage</div></div>

matthews has even less. his only option is sit and lose money or play in europe/khl for 1/5th of the pay.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 18, 2022 at 11:37 a.m.

Thread: where dubas went wrong

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsradynasty</b></div><div>So every player just takes whatever you give good luck with that.</div></div>

or just hold firm at market value

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 18, 2022 at 10:50 a.m.

Thread: where dubas went wrong

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>He was not going to take less than that on 5 years. Do you think Dubas just said "Here, have some extra cash" ? Matthews had the 5th highest goal total over those from 2016-2019, and I believe the second highest GPG rate and I'm guessing for 5v5 G as well.

So, it was pretty clear to everyone involved in the negotiations that he would likely be the top goal scorer in the League after Ovechkin who was the former highest paid player. 8 years would have required making Matthews the highest paid player, and you would have been saying Dubas should have signed him to a 9 or 10m bridge deal.</div></div>

its pretty well known that dubas isn't a good negotiator

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 18, 2022 at 10:26 a.m.

Thread: where dubas went wrong

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsradynasty</b></div><div>So You know Mathews didn't refuse to sign 8 years . Just because McDavid signed for that doesn't mean Mathews would . Maybe he wants the right to go UFA more likely the case.He probably felt he could make a lot more on the open Market.</div></div>

than sign him at the cheaper cap hit for 5 years.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 18, 2022 at 9:44 a.m.

Thread: where dubas went wrong

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>Matthews took a shorter term for one reason and one alone, he gets to cash out on his 3rd contract sooner while in prime. Just because mcdavid is too dumb to do it doesnt make matthews contract worse.</div></div>

5 years is fine but he's getting paid the 8 year price

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 18, 2022 at 9:40 a.m.

Thread: where dubas went wrong

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>Kadri literally did the same thing 3 years in a row on two different teams. He wasnt a scapegoat he was a liability. Neat that he turned it around 2 years after the trade
Tavares was a good signing and the pandemic doesn't change that, same with the matthews deal.
Marner wasa slight overpay at worst.
Muzzin was well worth the price and him getting injured years later doesnt change that
Hymans contract is terrible and the leafs dodged that bullet. Dude cant even get it done with mcdavid.
Lol at the terrible cost eval of engvall and NAK,if the sens had them on those deals you'd be saying they were great value.
Ive never seen so much complaining about a goalie you got paid to take either.
Just a whole lot of hindsight and grass is greener logic here</div></div>

tavares was a mistake

dubas caved in the matthews and marner negotiations

muzzin was an overpay.

hyman was a stud in the playoffs. the type of player the leafs need. marner and nylander dont like to go into the corners

just a lot of forseeable mistakes.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 18, 2022 at 9:35 a.m.

Thread: where dubas went wrong

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsradynasty</b></div><div>Problem with those this is what they should have signed him for deals is.... what makes you think said player would have agreed? "Mathews should be 8 years for that price" . I'd be willing to bet Dubas tried to get him to sign 8 years but Mathews said NO.</div></div>

dubas caves too easily in negotiations.

mcdavid signed for 8 no reason matthews couldn't

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 18, 2022 at 9:10 a.m.

Thread: where dubas went wrong

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>nintendofan721</b></div><div>Where’s your other goalie?</div></div>

not sure what of the other options the leafs should have went for. they still could have went the murray @ $3.125m route with 50% retention. kuemper, campbell, and husso would all have been options too. leafs have $10m to spend how they see fit.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 18, 2022 at 7:27 a.m.

Thread: Buying and selling TDL

tatar is dead weight

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 18, 2022 at 7:23 a.m.

Thread: Going to be Hard

too far the other way. too much for girard this time.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 18, 2022 at 7:22 a.m.

Thread: Go Crazy

avs decline both

Forum: NHLSep. 17, 2022 at 5:50 p.m.

Thread: Older Teams Will Win

i wouldnt be shocked if boston, pittsburgh, and washington all missed.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 17, 2022 at 10:20 a.m.

Thread: If Kaut makes the roster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NMAvsFan</b></div><div>True enough - he just may not be the right guy for this team under this coach. In that case, they should try to trade him before they just lose him on waivers.</div></div>

yea i was hoping they'd move him 2 years ago. they held him too long.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 17, 2022 at 10:13 a.m.

Thread: If Kaut makes the roster

kaut just isn't a fit for the avs.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NMAvsFan</b></div><div>I think Kaut should be on the roster and it would be nice for him to get some more games; he could help spell the older guys. But Bednar likes is bottom-sixers to be try-hards who just play "see-puck, get-puck." That doesn't describe Kaut; he's more cerebral than that.</div></div>

those see-pucks, get-pucks players were a huge part of the avs win over tampa.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 17, 2022 at 9:29 a.m.

Thread: habsolutly

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habitantlecolon</b></div><div>ouck control start by winning faceoff. More you control the play more you play to win ... But yeah little to no .... !</div></div>

yet it doesn't show up in the stats.

Forum: NHLSep. 17, 2022 at 9:17 a.m.

Thread: Pacific Division Projections

calgary. i could see them winning the presidents trophy.

Forum: NHLSep. 17, 2022 at 9:17 a.m.

Thread: Atlantic Projectsions

florida but i can easily see toronto taking it if murray isn't a ****show.

Forum: NHLSep. 17, 2022 at 9:15 a.m.

Thread: Central Division Projections

avs but the blues and wild a very underrated teams.

Forum: NHLSep. 17, 2022 at 9:15 a.m.

Thread: Metro Division Projections - Updated

it's between carolina and nyr imo. carolina is the favorite but shesterkin is the wild card. i expect the isles to bounce back after a coaching change.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 17, 2022 at 8:27 a.m.

Thread: Habsurd CHANCES

habs add something for the avs in the 1st dea. maybe ylonen

avs don't need a goalie. i think the habs missed their chance to move allen this offseason. they held too long. value is not terrible if allen is playing well.

Forum: NHLSep. 17, 2022 at 8:24 a.m.

Thread: 2022-23 NHL Pre-Season Discussion Thread #1: The Boys Are Back

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil</b></div><div>Kakko can easily do more than Hughes</div></div>

i donno. he didn't have as much free time this offseason.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 17, 2022 at 8:15 a.m.

Thread: habsolutly

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habitantlecolon</b></div><div>starting 56% of time with the puck is a difference making to a puck control team like avs for me ;) !!</div></div>

there is little to no correlation between winning games and winning faceoffs. it's only a slightly better stat than +/-

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 17, 2022 at 8:14 a.m.

Thread: habsolutly

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habitantlecolon</b></div><div>we don't add anything this is the lowest offer i've made knowing that Dvorak on a top team would be a 60 pts center !</div></div>

take your pick. kaut or the 3rd. otherwise habs add something small.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 17, 2022 at 6:12 a.m.

Thread: habsolutly

habs add something small to the avs trade. its close tho.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 17, 2022 at 5:46 a.m.

Thread: Rantanen 2C

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>We'll see. He's projected to play on the 3rd line which would give him opportunity to pot ~30 points. If he does he will definitely get $2m+, especially as a center.

Btw based on the rookie game last night it seems like he has a knack for being in the right place at the right time in the slot for rebounds and tip-ins. He scored the GWG on a tip-in and had another couple of good chances via a tip and a slot chance on the PP.</div></div>

jost had 3 consecutive 20+ point seasons and only got his q.o

lundestrom had 30 and got 2x$1.8m. geekie low 20's got 1x$1.4m, boqvist got low 20's on pace for 30's and got his q.o.

i expect the avs to pinch him since they are so tight on cap. i don't think he's arbitration eligible either so i'm expecting more or less his q.o.

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