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Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 3, 2019 at 6:38 p.m.
Thread: Vancouver Canucks signed Tyler Motte (1 Year / $975,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rollie1967</b></div><div>Motte was a decent 4th liner, never seemed to get the chance to do much else, but put in a good effort. good on the pk. 1yr deal is fine. The Canucks have to figure out what they have in Goldobin,Leivo and Virtanen, are they 2nd liners? (like they were sometimes used) or 3rd (more likely) or just good 4th liners (Leivo especially) Goldy is on thin ice with the coach, so if he isnt producing and putting in the effort- hes not on the top 2 lines...and therefore will likely be jettisoned.
Their d-corps is fine now, Juolevi is coming off major surgery, so pencilling him in for a top 6 spot now- is premature.</div></div>

I would like to see Goldy, Jake, Motte and Leivo as a line to see what they have as a crew. Pick any two and then centred by Gaudette. Todays NHL needs three production lines as the skill level is so much deeper than before. If you give two of them a chance for portions of the season and then let some chemistry develop....maybe we would see. Goldy and Jake are horrible in their own zone right now....that needs development to improve- not benching. Motte and Leivo are average on the front end but better in their own end....pick your poison I guess LOL
Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 2, 2019 at 7:10 p.m.
Thread: Vancouver Canucks signed Tyler Motte (1 Year / $975,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>thelastlongbow</b></div><div>Agreed, the Leafs could've used a depth player with some experience, though I'm not too concerned about our wingers. The established ones need to work harder defensively, is all.

As for Donny, is Motte really a liability at that price? The other guys though, yeah you have a point. Some aging players and contracts that need shedding.</div></div>


I don't think he is a liability....he is stuck in a log jam of below average third liners who are scrambling for ice time....Virtanen, Motte, Gaudette, Schaller, Goldy, Leivo. That leaves out Lind, Palmu, Gadjovich....if those 9 were all competing for 6 spots that would be fine.... But on the Canucks we are saddled with Eriksson, Sutter, Beagle, Roussel, Baertschi, Pearson.... The Canucks need either a second line bonafide winger (but they bought out Spooner after a short trial) OR let the young kids play and let them make their mistakes now rather than in three years when the rest of team has improved.

They have done the same on D with Edler and Benn. Canuck top six does not leave room for 4 signed young guys, 2 RFAs and 1 or 2 prospects (Juolevi et al)
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 2, 2019 at 7:02 p.m.
Thread: Betting against success
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>He spent a lot of time with Boeser on his wing. And how many of his points where pp? He's a good play but compare Vancouver to TO and where is Horvat when you have really good centres? 3c</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>t4tree</b></div><div>A 60 point center who took the most faceoffs in the league (many probably in the defensive zone) is not a 3rd line center. He had no good wingers around him and still produced.</div></div>


Quietly rising through the ranks. I believe he is a 1A centre who is taking his role on the team quite well. If he is 3rd line then WOW you have a strong team! His faceoff numbers were excessively high due to injuries IMHO. Beagle was supposed to ease that....Sutter was supposed to ease that....Pettersson is a winger....so that leaves Captain Bo! PErfect for any second line on any team- even the Leafs would love to have him .... although there he may be a 3rd liner I guess LOL.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 2, 2019 at 4:45 p.m.
Thread: Betting against success
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>They have some pieces, but they need way more depth. Horvat should be a 3rd line centre. And all the other guys you mentioned, the bottom 6 players that aren't showing as anything other than bubble players is the problem in vancouvers. You just don't have the depth and you haven't developed well and moves like every FA move Benning has made, is keep the team just good enough to not be bad enough to get the ride base for the team. They just don't have enough elite players.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>t4tree</b></div><div>I don't think they are jumping the gun. I do not think we need to just make the playoffs to win the cup. We were affected with injuries all season and were only 10 points out of the playoffs. If Markstrom can keep playing like he did last year we have a great goalie who can steal games for us. We have a top six that maybe isn't as good as Vegas or Tampa but it can put up points and be viable in the league. In professional sports, you don't just draft and develop for 10 years doing nothing. While the Canucks won't win the cup this year, showing that they can contend and make the playoffs is good for the organization. No one wants to watch a team suck for 10 years in a row. For the next 3-4 youth will keep being injected in this lineup to beef up depth scoring. Players like Virtanen, Gaudette, Madden, Hoglander and Lind can all potentially add scoring in the coming years.

You talk about how you need a great team to win the cup. Canucks have the foundational pieces in Pettersson, Horvat, Boeser, Hughes and Demko to build around. If you truly want better players to make them a "top team" you need to be able to attract top free agents aswell. If we added say Panarin, Pavelski or Lee would we be a "top team". The point is you can't just rebuild for 10 years and expect your team to instantly become amazing after that. Slowly a team will improve by building around it's core players and that's what this team is doing.</div></div>



So here's a question: Canucks let "stars" play a few games in there first season after college and end up paying them 6 or 7 million a year earlier. Someone tell me how that makes any business sense?


Now- IF the 'Nucks had spent the last 4/5 years developing all the kids that needed it then we wouldn't have the plethora of third/fourth liners. Same this year with Benn and Edler. Really...we are going to stick with those two instead of giving Hughes, Juolevi, Woo and others a chance...or giving more opportunities to Mr. Fix-It Biega- who is a perfect 4th line winger with his energy. Or sign Schenn who is Myers without steroids.

The future looks good though....2021= Pettersson's big deal (oh and Hughes due to him playing a few games last spring???) and the End of Baertschi, Sutter, Pearson, Edler and Benn. And improvements the next year (2022) with Eriksson, Roussel and Beagle expiring.

So in 3 years- things look good....no worries though Still time to muss that up by signing some old guys for too long. Maybe 4 year deals for Jumbo Joe and Kronwall this summer?

And we should be looking at getting the big man back from Russia too. Adding Tryamkin would improve this team way more than Benn or Edler. Imagine he, Myers and Schenn as three parts to the D. Tough to play against I would think.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 2, 2019 at 2:42 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 26, 2019 at 7:40 p.m.
Thread: D-Mow
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>canucks_Fan_53</b></div><div>i mean the title is accurate, but that's about it... c'mon man you're giving nucks fans a bad rap here.

do you know how the offer sheet process works? this post would indicate no.
do you realize TOR's cap situation? again, this post would indicate no.
VAN traded a 2nd for Baertschi... his stock has fallen based on concussion and injury issues, IF OTT is interested, IMO the most we get back is a third</div></div>

Take whatever you can get for Baertschi. His time in Vancouver is over now with the top two lines formed. keep him another year and we lose all benefits of his upside...much like Tanev. Also moving out way more salary from TO than they are taking on. And shorter terms. The buds won't part with the two youngest guys or Marner IMO so next best is to clear some of their problem children and see what comes.

If not McAvoy then there are others out there in the 4-5mill range that can be sheeted and move forward. Problem with ALL that is that no owners will honour the system in placefor fear of revenge signings et al.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 26, 2019 at 7:36 p.m.