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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 25, 2019 at 1:02 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 17, 2019 at 11:42 a.m.
Thread: Actually rebuilding properly imo
The biggest problem I see is the lack of enough penalty killers, especially down the middle. I know they like to use Larkin on the PK and I suppose Ehn could be the other main PK center but I am not a big fan of either. Ehn is not really much more than a 13/14 forward on good team and while Larkin is a very solid PK guy I worry about burning him out. Having at least one of Nielsen/Glendening around would help take some of that pressure off. Additionally I worry that this lineup would have the Wings weak down the middle with Dach, Athanasiou, Ehn behind Larkin. I don't personally like the idea of throwing a kid as young as Dach into the deep end right away...especially with a couple other very young players in Zadina and Bracco...and I am far from sold on AA as a center. He can do it but I think he is much better off as a winger.

If you simply do not sign Bietto to sit in press box most nights you have a roster spot to keep Nielsen, kick AA to Larkin's wing, move either Bert or Helm to Dach's wing to give a little help to that line and make the depth a little more palatable.

Athanasiou-Larkin-Mantha
Rasmussen-Nielsen-Bracco
Bertuzzi-Dach-Zadina
Svechnikov-Helm-Abdelkader
Ehn-Witkowski
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 16, 2019 at 5:04 p.m.
Thread: Initial Offseason Thoughts
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaptainStevieY</b></div><div>If Trouba really does want to come to Detroit then trading anything for him would be dumb. He would just go to arbitration this offseason, get a one year deal, then sign with Detroit next summer.
Also, not that it matters, but that second line you have - oof. That would be by far the worst second line in the league. It would be one of the worst 4th lines in hockey actually.</div></div>

Trading for him now guarantees they get him on the team and gives them a year to negotiate a long term deal (although likely the deal does not get done without an extension agreed to).

Sure, AA drives his own offense more than Trouba would...but you have to keep pucks out of your own net as well as put them in the other team's net to win. Right now AA only really does one at an NHL level...and mostly for himself. If they have a top three pick in the next draft they would have Larkin, Mantha, Zadina, Athanasiou, the draft pick, Veleno, Bertuzzi and possibly Svechnikov. Trading from a position of strength to build up a weakness is how good teams build. Like when Tampa traded Drouin for Serganchev.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 18, 2018 at 6:26 p.m.
Thread: Crap the bed next year... things looking up starting 2019-20
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>Id pass on simmonds, it took him a while to get to his offensive peak and i can see him hitting a wall early with his type of game. Myers ill take any day of the week. Hes a legit top pair dman.</div></div>

I see it just the opposite. If they were looking to pay for a forward and could not land Artemi Panarin I would not mind adding Wayne Simmonds as he could prove to be a vey good mentor to the Red Wings promising crop of wingers. Additionally his addition would not block any of those forwards from being on the roster.

The same cannot be said about Tyler Myers. While he is a good defenseman, he has never really lived up to his potential when he was drafted and his playing style is not the type that ages gracefully so he would be a bigger albatross contract wise than any other contract the Wings have signed to the roster.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 18, 2018 at 6:17 p.m.
Thread: Larkin left
One thing you do need to keep in mind is that the Wings will not be able to get full cap relief in a scenario where Franzen, Kronwall and Zetterberg are all on LTIR. In order to get the relief the team has to use the relief immediately. In other words, they have to spend what they save. For example, for them to get the full relief from Franzen's cap hit they have to spend $3,954,545 above the cap ceiling prior to the start of the season (since Franzen will be placed on what is essentially season long LTIR). If they are only $2.5M over the cap at the time he is placed onto LTIR they only would get $2.5M in cap relief and the rest of Franzen's cap hit (~$1.4M) would remain on the books for season as basically dead cap money. This is, I suspect, part of the reason Ken Holland has been willing to spend the last few seasons despite the team declining. Without spending the money initially and getting the cap relief they would have to ice a roster with ~$4M less in available cap space than the rest of the league.

Why this all matters in terms of your plan and why the Wings cannot LTIR Kronwall, Zetterberg and Franzen and receive the full relief is because teams can only spend up to 10% over the established salary cap ceiling during the offseason. this means the absolute most cap relief a team can receive for the up coming season from LTIR is $7.95M...which is $6.8M less than the combined total of those three players cap hits and which is about $800k more than the remaining cap space you have left in your scenario.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 18, 2018 at 6:01 p.m.
Thread: Trade for Dante Fabbro
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shifttee</b></div><div>Have to disagree with you on both fronts,

Fabbro is one of the better defensive prospects league wide, AA and a 3rd is not enough

as fair as the fit for both teams? where does AA fit in Nashville?
is he gonna play on the wing?
is he bumping Bonino down to the 4C? Is he the 4C?

if he is moving to the wing Nashville could get a better winger for Fabbro</div></div>


Moving to the wing? Athanasiou has played on the wing for most of his time in Detroit. Where he would play would depend a lot on how the Preds want to build their lines but Athanasiou would definitely provide them with another fast, high skill offensive player and unlike the Red Wings the Preds blue line could help to mask some of AA's defensive weaknesses.

Fabbro is definitely a very good prospect but he is just that, a prospect. While everyone expects he will turn into a Top 4 Dman in he NHL someday, there is no guarantees and unless the Preds let Ryan Ellis walk after this season (or more likely trade him) there is not a lot of room for a player like Fabbro on their blue line, and while it is nice to have reserves that can be called in in times of injury he is also an asset that can be used to improve other areas of the team right now.

If you prefer I would personally be fine to swap out Gustav Nyquist for Athanasiou or maybe even add them together (in that case it would definitely require the Wings taking something additional back in terms of a 2nd rd pick or another prospect).
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 19, 2017 at 11:12 a.m.
Thread: A potential Zetterbergless roster
While I would hardly consider $9M per year a discount and I am not sure there are going to be as many suitors for Tavares as people expect (mainly because I think there are not going to be a lot of teams that have the cap space and roster make up to attract him enough to leave the Islanders) I can concede it could take more than $9M. Bumping him up to $10M per would be a little more difficult but I should still work.

As for the trade with Carolina, keep in mind it would be Nyquist plus up to a 2nd round pick in 2018. Another option could be Athanasiou (as Carolina is in need of centers as well as scoring) and a pick but I would not go in with that deal. Carolina is going to have to move a defenseman or possibly even two relatively soon. No so much because of cap issues (they have a boatload) but because they need to improve their forward core and, depending on what they do with the three defensemen RFAs they have this summer, they could have 6 defensemen signed beyond next season without counting Fleury and they are going to have to figure out how to make room for Jake Bean soon. I fully understand and agree the price for Fleury is lower than that of Hanifin or Faulk, hence the reason I choose him.

As for Zetterberg, his contract begins to diverge from his cap hit starting next season. Sure, it does not drop to $1M until the 2019-2020 season but after everything that has gone on the last two seasons in Detroit along with the very real possibility that there is a complete regime change after this season when Ken Holland's contract is up he could very easily decide he does not want to go through everything he needs to in order to play as a 38 year old on a team that is in the midst of a massive rebuild and walk away while he still can. Same with Kronwall. Sure he might leave some money on the table but at this point $1.75M (his actual salary next year) might not be worth continued pain and w/t on his knees (LTIR is going to be a difficult one to do as it would require the Wings to say that despite the fact he played around 60 games the past two seasons with his knees already toast he can no longer play hockey because of his health. That is a very tough sell and one the league might just come after them on).
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 28, 2017 at 5:44 a.m.
Thread: Rumours, Draft picks &amp; Making Cap Space
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LarkinTheNextOne</b></div><div>

Oh come on, it's not That bad!</div></div>

It is not the worst I have seen for sure, but there are definitely some issues. Like for instance, having 9 defensemen on the roster or playing Athanasiou at center when he has been almost exclusively a wing since joining the Wings.

I personally do not like the idea of having Larkin as the 1C either. I know he played well at the World's and he should be played at center only going forward, but I would prefer to see Frans and Zetterberg taking the top two center spots. A top 9 of Abdelkader/Zeterberg/Nyquist, Tatar/Nielsen/Mantha, Athanasiou/Larkin/Svechnikov would be ideal IMO. This would give the Wings three lines that should be able to score while also giving them the forward depth to take advantage of most teams third or fourth lines.