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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2021 at 12:03 p.m.
Thread: Marner and Hyman
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ColonelX</b></div><div>I mean Hanafin and Tanev are worth their money but why does Anderson makes a million per year more than dudes like Chiarot and Edmundson? Is he that good? (Not watching much of Flames but I didn't notice an almost 5m$ guy when he was playing us.</div></div>

Hanifin and Andersson will be the top pairing next year and you'd hope Tanev can do the same for Valimaki this year that he did for Hanifin last year.
Andersson is an interesting one cause he signed a deal in a really good year and it looks very overpaid at this point, he had a down season last year playing with Giordano against McDavid, Matthews, Draisaitl for most of the season. I think he is worth his contract it just isn't showing yet, it will be a really good looking deal in year 4, 5, 6 I believe.

I honestly think the Canadian division was the worst thing to happen to the Flames, you spend so long building a team to compete in the Pacific division with the California teams and Vegas that always ice a big thumping roster, to switch the game completely and try compete with high flying teams like the Leafs, Oilers x10, Jets and even the Senators that are uber talented is a crazy change. Andersson will thrive in the Pacific against those top guys, he plays a really solid heavy game.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2021 at 11:50 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2021 at 5:06 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2021 at 4:56 p.m.
Thread: Peace Out Jack
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lunatik</b></div><div>Olofsson is only more productive because he gets top PP minutes at ES he was less productive despite playing more. In Calgary Olofsson wouldn't get top PP minutes, thus he'd end up being less productive overall. As for "possession", I don't give two ****s until they start measuring it in time like it should be.

At best it is a lateral move with up to double the cap hit, It's a bad move, but I'm not surprised you'd support a bad trade.</div></div>

So you'd argue that Olofsson's increased playing time is the reason he has significantly less giveaways last season? Points per 60, Olofsson still out produced. Over the last three seasons Olofsson out produced Dube at even strength in less games, and significantly out produced him on the power play, it's almost as if a team in the bottom third of the league in PP% like the Flames could use a guy who plays a ton of PP time, would be far better than Dube, Lucic, Backlund on the second unit.

Dube's stats could even be inflated compared to Olofsson cause he didn't have to play in Buffalo, this statistically, even the basic ones that you can understand was Olofsson's worst season and Dube's best, Olofsson was better..

The CapFriendly circle jerk Flames fans will continue to wank though!

PS, don't try edit your comments to take out insults, own it ya little goof ball!
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2021 at 4:23 p.m.
Thread: Peace Out Jack
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lunatik</b></div><div>1) Dube is a better ES producer, almost half of Olofsson's career production is on the PP and he wouldn't have PP1 time in Calgary.
2) Dube is 3 years younger
3) Dube will be signed to a lower cap hit than Olofsson

Sure the 2nd would be nice, but the Flames aren't rebuilding so downgrading makes no sense.</div></div>

Olofsson's possession numbers are better, Sutter likes those guys.
Dube has been mediocre at best in three seasons, Olofsson has almost doubled his production in less games played
It's so far from a downgrade it is crazy. Dube is a middle six at best. Olofsson immediately makes the Flames PP 2 better, arguably this was Olafsson's worst statistical season on a really bad team and he was still better than Dube in his best season so far in regards to possession and production.

At absolute dog shirt worst for the Flames it's lateral and they get a more productive player right now.

Calling it a downgrade is incredibly biased and really wrong, the second shouldn't even be in there, if they aren't rebuilding they should take the player that makes them more dangerous right away as opposed to the player that could possibly produce at that level in a couple years. Once again all around bad take from the Flames top group of little minions
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2021 at 2:24 p.m.
Thread: start of a new rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Highlife</b></div><div>Yes.. and Victor Oloffson has played significantly more minutes and with the likes of Jack Eichel and Sam Reinhart. Who has Dube had the luxury of playing with?

Dube is also three years younger which has to be considered.

Purely looking at "counting stats" is a horrible idea because it doesn't factor in context. Olofsson "relative" possession numbers are better solely because Buffalo is an absolute dumpster fire.

The trade based on value is by no means horrible. It's just not a trade that makes Calgary a better overall team in my estimation.</div></div>

I disagree I think Calgary gets the better player and I think he would fit better in the Flames for the next few years trying to compete. Good points though, I can see where you're coming from, just don't agree.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2021 at 1:13 p.m.
Thread: start of a new rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Highlife</b></div><div>Olofsson is a complete liability at even strength and to this point is nothing more than a PP specialist. He wouldn't even see the 1st PP here.

Dillon Dube outproduced him at even strength this past season (20 points) while playing 12:15 a night at evens.
Victor Oloffson had 17 even strength points at even strength while playing 14:30 minutes a night.

Dube is the far more effective all around player, will be significantly cheaper in the short term, and is far more suited for a Sutter system. Darryl would absolutely despise VO.</div></div>

When the Flames march out a PP2 with Dube, Backlund and Lucic on it while living in the bottom third of the league there is definitely room for improvement.

Over the last three seasons comparing the two Olofsson has nearly doubled Dube's production in less games played, he has 5 more even strength points plus 30 more powerplay points. Looking at numbers you could actually argue that this was a down year for Olofsson while it was Dube's best season and Olofsson was still the better player.

Why would Sutter hate Olofsson, isn't it a tried and true Sutter trait that he loves guys with great possession metrics? Olofsson's numbers there have been better than Dube's every single season.