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Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 2, 2020 at 10:20 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 14, 2019 at 4:45 p.m.
Thread: LeBrun reported Lightning offered Point a 3 years contract 57M AAV
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NR1203</b></div><div>Because the cap is higher now than it was when Stamkos signed, not to mention he probably genuinely loves Tampa enough to have taken that discount. When looking for comparables, players don't look at pure money unless the deal was signed in the last year or two (Stamkos was 3 offseasons ago). Point is going to earn more than Kucherov and Stamkos because the cap is higher for him, plus he has newfound comparables (Matthews and Marner) to help drive his price up.</div></div>

Percentage of cap is the only way to compare contracts from different years. Stamkos outperformed both Mathews and Marner on their ELC's and his 2nd contract was 11.7% of the cap, Mathews 14.3%, Marner 13.4%. I don't blame Dubas for the Marner contract because he'd already set the bar on his own team; he had no choice and will continue to pay the price going forward. It was the Mathews contract that was unadulterated stupidity.

Regardless, the fact is these Toronto contracts are not like-kind comparables for Point. If you were usning them as comps in an appraisel for example, you would discount them significantly (taxes, team, market, life style, weather, cost of living, etc) to arrive at a value for Point's contract. Also, Point is likely only going to be given a 3yr bridge option, which is very different from a contract that includes any UFA years. At least it was before dumb f$ck Dubas got a GM job in the NHL.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 14, 2019 at 4:01 p.m.
Thread: Marners contract impact on Point
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>iilucassxx</b></div><div>Toronto killing the cap? They're the reason most of the NHL teams haven't folded yet, they literally make more than any other team in the league, but when they start to spend it for themselves they're a stupid organization? k</div></div>

You do realize the NHL has a hard salary cap right? The Leafs are not in the same situation as the NY Yankees.

Marner contract isn't a surprise and won't affect Point. Dubas may have made some good trades (although he hasn't actually signed any of those guys and has 1 dman signed past this year) but has indeed screwed the pooch signing his own guys. He seriously shat &amp; played in it with that Mathews contract. He was under NO obligation to do that. I recall the big selling point when Stamkos was UFA was all that millions that could be made in Toronto doing tire commercials,etc. So why arent' Mathews and Marner taking team friendly contracts and raking in all that tire money?