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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>The 2 moves Murray got mostly bashed for was Spezza and Bishop

But Spezza was aging and had back problems, plus nixed a trade to Nashville. He was going to need a new contract that would make him overpaid and that's exactly what happened. Sens got Chiasson (who had good potential), Nick Paul and a 2nd in return, not the disaster some painted. Maybe if the fanbase didn't massively scapegoated Spezza, he would have not asked for a trade... duh

Bishop returned Conacher and a pick BEFORE he made his mark in the NHL. Sens got Bishop for just a 2nd in the first place, so hardly a crippling trade tree.

Opposedly, he did A LOT of good moves for the Sens (Methot, MacArthur, Gonchar, Kovalev, Ruutu, Anderson, Karlsson, trades, signins and draft in general, etc). He rebuilt the team on the fly, they made the playoffs in 5/9 seasons and won 3 rounds (2016-17 was Murray's team)


And then started to destruct almost immediately</div></div>

I remember the day he made the Phaneuf trade. What a move. Two veteran GM's making a massive 9 player deal that benefited both teams. It was botched by Dorion eventually by choosing not to protect Meth over Ceci... and then Ceci for Zaitsev and Connor Brown... and then CB for a 2nd... and then Zaitsev and a 2nd for future considerations...

Sigh... you and I have had some disagreements about Dorion... but looking back... Dorion never got this team over the hump. Call it Melnyk, call it bad injury luck... but there were a lot more questionable moves than good ones.