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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 23, 2022 at 11:18 a.m.
Thread: Wouldnt offer more for Dubois
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KPasty</b></div><div>Then why pay for him at all? Winnipeg is only gonna trade him to MTL if they get exactly what they want (most likely one of Suzuki, Dach, guhle, Barron). He’ll most likely be traded at the deadline this year to a contender who wants to get 2 playoff runs out of him. Winnipeg would get a better return then anyway when teams in the hunt are more desperate, than now when teams are in tough trying to get cap compliant.</div></div>

That's exactly my point. Montreal is not a contender and will not be for at least 2 years. Furthermore, Suzuki, Caufield, Guhle and Barron are untouchables. If a trade has to happen today, I would not overpay. Winnipeg would then be better off trading him at the TDL. If he really wants to play for Montreal, he will become UFA in 2024.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2022 at 11:10 a.m.
Thread: Does this get PLD done
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Next summer is not going to be any better since PLD only wants to play for Montreal. In fact I think the longer he waits the less other teams will offer seeing as he won't resign with them. Chevy is not working from a position of strength here and with each passing day\week\month\season his position weakens.</div></div>

Not really. You may want to convince yourself that the offers won't get better, but nothing nothing supports that assumption. If Dubois has a big year and someone sees him as the last piece they need, his price goes up.

Dubois' minimum price at the TDL in 2 years is a 1st and good prospect, so the offer would need to be at least that, plus more for the extra two years.

If the offers are bad, they just keep him and play him. 2 years of PLD and his rental return is better than accepting a poor return.

Chevy is patient and always has done well when he needed to trade a player. I don't see him changing his MO now. He knows he has two years, that's his leverage.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2022 at 12:41 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 28, 2022 at 3:08 p.m.
Thread: Dubois rumours
Just going to break this down as gently as possible, with zero intention of being rude...

-WIN get one of the best 2nd goalies in the league (He'll be 32 when the season starts, and has been below league average 4 of the past 5 seasons)
-Dvorak to provide them with a 2nd centerman (Do we reallllly think he's still a 2C, or is he just a 3C that can play up a bit *IF* needed?)
-Armia who’s a great leader and provides offense (Citing leadership and offence when a guy just put up 14 pts in 60 games for a team that went from being pretty good to really bad seems weird...)
-Pezzetta who’s a good depth player (Pezzatta is a dime a dozen 13th forward/waiver candidate)
-Brooks to provide depth between AHL and NHL (Brook is a 23 year old who played a total of 19 games this year, including 13 in the ECHL. To say that he's ready to play in the NHL is a bittttt weird)
-and 3 picks, including a first round (Late 1st, late 2nd, late 3rd =Quantity)
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 28, 2022 at 3:08 p.m.
Thread: Dubois rumours
Just going to break this down as gently as possible, with zero intention of being rude...

-WIN get one of the best 2nd goalies in the league (He'll be 32 when the season starts, and has been below league average 4 of the past 5 seasons)
-Dvorak to provide them with a 2nd centerman (Do we reallllly think he's still a 2C, or is he just a 3C that can play up a bit *IF* needed?)
-Armia who’s a great leader and provides offense (Citing leadership and offence when a guy just put up 14 pts in 60 games for a team that went from being pretty good to really bad seems weird...)
-Pezzetta who’s a good depth player (Pezzatta is a dime a dozen 13th forward/waiver candidate)
-Brooks to provide depth between AHL and NHL (Brook is a 23 year old who played a total of 19 games this year, including 13 in the ECHL. To say that he's ready to play in the NHL is a bittttt weird)
-and 3 picks, including a first round (Late 1st, late 2nd, late 3rd =Quantity)
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 13, 2022 at 4:02 p.m.
Thread: Gibson idea
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KPasty</b></div><div>Not a Edmonton or Anaheim fan, but I don't think Anaheim adds picks to this deal as is. I think Edmonton might have to add Samorukov and then Anaheim would add a 2nd

So I say:
<strong>Edmonton Receives:</strong>
John Gibson
2022 2nd Round Pick (PIT)

<strong>Anaheim Receives:</strong>
Puljujärvi, Jesse [RFA Rights]
Kassian, Zack
Samorukov, Dmitri
2022 1st round pick (EDM)
2022 4th round pick (ANA)</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>As you say, Kassian is a cap dump. So let's assume he has no value (not negative value, just no value). That means this trade is Puljujarvi and this year's first for Gibson, our 2023 second and a fourth. That's a joke. Either your GM think Gibson is worth trading for, or he's not.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Take out Anaheim's second and the retention and replace Samorukov with Broberg and the deal makes sense for the Ducks.</div></div>

I think the trade suggested by KPasty is certainly closer. Maybe switch who's giving the 2nd and 4th Round picks (perhaps Anaheim includes no pick at all . . . ?) Agree with OldNYFan . . . you either want the player or you don't. Retaining with that much term is tough, I will agree. But Anaheim also needs to keep it real . . . If it's a must that they trade Gibson (from the reports of his discontent, etc.), they are doing so at his lowest value and that cap hit and term don't increase his value in the slightest. Plus it dramatically reduces the number of potential suiters the Ducks will find in a trade. Edmonton shouldn't consider for a second trading a package like this with Broberg or Hollloway included . . . or anyone else I'm sure they insist GIbson is worth. JMO