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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 13, 2023 at 3:07 p.m.
Thread: Early Idea of 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Damn you told me, thats why Backlund signed an extension right? Because he didn't want to be in Calgary. Thats why insiders are saying Lindholm is likely to extend too right?

Just because you have no clue what a No Move Clause is doesn't mean you have to get salty about it. Go look it up instead. Chicago isn't going to make the playoffs for at least 4 more years, Calgary will probably make the playoffs is at least 3 of those next 4 years. So tell me, why would Markstrom waive to Chicago?</div></div>

Oh that wasn't related to Markstrom that was more a comment on the city of Calgary in general and losing Tkatchuk and Geaudreau your best players since iginla for next to nothing. Backlund wouldn't get more and reports dont matter, action does.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2023 at 12:27 a.m.
Thread: Title
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>I am probably in the minority here. This whole situation with Kurashev kind of seems like lip service and has the makings for a possible trade in the near future. I'm not even pointing fingers or insinuating it wouldn't be justified, and i'm also not saying Kurashev shouldn't ask for more. I like Kurashev, but, personally, I don't really see a clear place for him in next seasons roster, let alone with the future of the Hawks, and I wouldn't be the least bit upset if he weren't back next season. Sure, in hindsight it could be a regrettable decision, as could trading any player away, but hindsight is 20/20.</div></div>

I 100% agree with that - he really hasn't proven himself to be that piece but is still technically young enough to justify giving minutes. He will be around likely another season but I'd say about a 40% chance he is a hawk in 2024-25. 3 Scenarios - He proves himself useful enough and gets another 1 year or so, A vet will take his place that is an upgraded depth piece (3-4 MM AAV on a short deal), or a young prospect takes his slot in the lineup. Could see him as a trade deadline "hockey trade" for a different piece.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 12:32 a.m.
Thread: Pipe Dream
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojohawk</b></div><div>I going to take a stab at the whole Toronto trading Murray concept that gets thrown around here daily. If you use the Athletic value chart for what picks are worth, the Boston first is around 3.1 value, the Tampa 2nd is valued at 1.5 and the difference is 1.6 or the Florida/NYI 2nd round pick in value. Would anyone with a straight face expect the Hawks to take the 6 million Murray is owed for the 49th pick in this draft...because that is the value proposed here. This is not last Summer where the Hawks needed 2 goalies to fill out roster spots and the Mrazek move was made in conjuction with 2 other moves to get into the first round 3 times over. Hawks have rostered goalies, made 3 first round picks last year and have 2 each lined up the next 3 drafts and otherwise are in a little different place and mindset on things going forward. The Mrazek trade was pretty poor "value" in retrospect, but I think some of the valuation from the Hawks was needing a roster goalie and misjudging how bad Mrazek actually was.

Dumping Murray's deal should cost a high to mid 2nd. If you trade Bostons's 1st for the Dallas 3rd, the value is the 34th pick in the draft (one better than the Hawks 2nd). If you trade that Boston pick for the Hawk 3rd, the value is the 53rd pick or one worse than the Tampa 2nd.</div></div>

Countering your point, Buying out Mrazek costs a little under 900k this year and a little under 1.5MM next season. We won't be close to the cap ceiling, so moving up almost a round into the first where there is a much more likely chance of getting a good player to take on a goalie with a cup on his resume, for one season. The value idea is important, but the actual success rate and odds of a 28th pick hitting is higher than a late 2nd, which for our rebuild is the only concern. That trade is easy to take for the hawks, who don't have financial concerns, and is well worth it.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 9, 2023 at 9:15 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 9, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.