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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 14 at 11:48 a.m.
Thread: Draft Day
Don't mean to be a negative voice here, but I have no clue why would the Habs give up so much for a 9th overall? Doesn't make sense.

You're giving up Barron [RFA Rights], Farrell, 2024 1st round pick (WPG); 2025 1st round pick (CGY); and 2025 2nd round pick (PIT) for a 9th?

While Barron isn't a high hit right now, he's still young and showing good signs, he may be added to a trade at Draft or offseason to get a veteran or a 2nd round pick.

Farrell has been more than useful and would alone fetch a 2nd round pick if he needed to be moved.

While the WIN is a late pick, Flames don't look like a top 15 team for next year either so Hugues may want to gamble and wait to see what pans out because it's full of clauses but could turn out better than expected if they can get a 11th to 15 pick. So it doesn't makes sense for Habs to trade so much for a 9th.. From 3 to 5 probably, but not over 5.

And PS from the years in Toronto and the moves Dubas did this year with the Pens.. I will say he isn't that smart to pull any of these off.. He'll do what he's done in Toronto, drive the team to nothing so he can get the easy picks top 3 in two to 3 drafts (Unless Sr Management wake up and fire him from the mess). By that time Crosby, Malkin and Letang will all be pass any chances of going for another cup run.

Hope Management send him packing soon before he destroys the Pens ... He got it easy in Toronto.. Tavares WANTED to play in TO, he drastically overpaid him anyways, he got Matthews of a draft lottery on that good year and got high pick for most of them. But he couldn't figure out the players who'll defend to bring it in.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 11 at 12:55 p.m.
Thread: Offseason Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Zegras is not, nor was on the table, and if he was available, it would take one of Slafkovsky, Reinbacher +, or MTLs 24 1st + at the draft.

"You weren't actively shopping him, but were teams calling on (Trevor Zegras) near the deadline?

No, they were not. Zegras is hurt. It's a situation there that everybody is speculating on that. We want Z to play with us. Hopefully, he can get through this injury pretty quickly and get him back on the ice."

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/anaheim-ducks/latest-news/pat-verbeek-discusses-the-ducks-2024-trade-deadline</div></div>

If Verbeek's statement is true then fine, but the "speculations" he's talking about are not just from MTL reporters, it was all over the league. Many GMs will say things like that to throw off the sent. He also may want more than what was offered or I'm putting here.. Or like the statement says, blown out of proportions.. We'll know once the season ends and Draft day happens.. Maybe even at TDL next year if they can't come up with a satisfactory number that Zegras will want for many seasons.

But clearly he isn't worth close to even one of Slafkovsky, or Reinbacher + if the rumors were running around about him not being happy with the treatment over his contract. The value drops.

If there is no issue between him and the management then it's a clear no move situation and they'll give him his 12M$+ contract in two years.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 1 at 8:03 a.m.
Thread: Kings
While most are happy to not have gotten PLD in MTL if Hugues still made a play for him, it would be considerably less than anything they may have offered WIN.

PLD has a huge contract, and while he's clearly not delivering in L.A. it would be such a big gamble to take on in hopes that he would suddenly produce something in MTL that matches the contract. ANd I was one hoping to get PLD at TDL last year.

The only deal Habs may put on the table would be to have a deal where the HABS win on this and LAK get rid of the 8.5M$ they have on their cap. This means pay out.. Hear me out, the LAK are NOT going to pay this but this is what I think they would need to take and send if Hugues were to bite on the deal.

LAK send : PLD + 1st 2025 + 2nd 2027
HABS send : Dvorak (cap space) + Armia
What this does is put relief in 2 years for LAK while providing them with players they can either buy-out or trade for peanuts (Armia) just to clear their cap.

Other than that I don't see Hugues gambling his picks and Barron for PLD who has unfortunately not proven he should've gotten that contract. With the term he has at the rate he's getting.. I don't see him being taken on by any team at this point unfortunately. LAK are gonna have to stick with him and work on his game else they'll have a guy sitting in the rafters taking in 103K$/game to eat hot dogs.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27 at 10:45 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27 at 10:41 a.m.
Thread: So the season is over
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>How do you plan to keep Harris on the roster for 2 more years?</div></div>

Well that a general question that has absolutely no context in which team keeps Harris, or what is actually being asked ... But I'll try it here..

As a general question about how to keep a player for a few more years: Harris has a year left.. Then he becomes an RFA hence you have the ability to sign an extension with the player, trade his right away or just cut ties with him, but he, unfortunately, is tied to the team who will own his RFA rights so he can't just sign with another team without a consequence if the player is approached by other teams, the current team can gets compensated for the "hostile offer" depending on the contract situation and will get picks etc.

I mean.. Everybody knows that..

If you're asking more specifically how the Habs plan to keep him on their roster.. Well.. Like I indicated above, he has one more year at 1.4M$ which Habs have the cap space. They also have many Defensemen that have two way contracts so they can keep them in Laval for development until such time they have a spot for them.

Another way of looking at it is that TDL is coming up, so Savard has been getting attention, I'm not saying he'll be moved, but given the right offer, Hugues may pull the trigger, hence a spot on the roster to finish this year, then you have off season trades, Draft Day trades etc etc etc that can come in and move Harris out, or just keep him if he's needed ..

I never said Habs would keep Harris for the next two years, but next year they can, until an appropriate deal is made and they have the RFA with him so...

If he goes to the Kings with a reasonable return, then they can keep him for how many years they see fit starting with next year then extension...
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27 at 8:58 a.m.
Thread: Necas
To be fair, Savard is worth the 2nd and 3rd without Gostibehere; But in reality where the next move will be decided on where goes Tanev; Once he goes, Savard suddenly becomes the top contender for a deal and will most likely bring in a 1st pick minimum.

Let's be fair here.. He'll go to a contender so this 1st pick will be a late pick which are not always top tier players, and have a fair probability of not even breaking in the NHL.

That 2025 1st and probably a good top tier prospect. But it will depend on what Tanev goes for. If you throw in Gostibehere for salary comp, the 1st pick suddenly will cost you another pick.. Maybe that 3rd in 2026, but I'd listen to reason and either ask for a 5th rounder in 2026. Hugues is a very good trade partner, but he's looking at maximizing all of the assets he has since he's stuck with some long term bad contracts in Gally and Anderson. So every move he has will be playing for the best possible deal, and I don't see him looking around to make it easy for other teams to play him.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 15 at 11:25 a.m.
Thread: If Zegras is on the market
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habitantlecolon</b></div><div>that's why we will draft Cayden Lindstrom.</div></div>

I guess we have a difference of opinions on this type of thing. I prefer going for a current young NHLer than a probable rookie.

Also, you're looking at the draft as if HABS will be able to pick who they want. The draft will be settled once the lottery has been dealt. They may sit at 13th, Lindstrom is currently looking to be 12th, they could also hit 9th-10th place and be able to get Iginla or Catton.. May also fall after these and not have the player they need.

My views are just that any player not being a top 3, push it to top 5 will not be a sure thing. Any of the players mentioned above could fail in the NHL regardless of the position they're in. Zegras is currently an NHLer. So so you have low risk of the player not being able to play in the league. Just look at Shane Wright.. Was supposed to be a sure thing for a top 6 (mostly 2nd line guy but in the end.. A sure NHLer).. Hugues finally did the right thing with Slaf.. But oh boy did they get hat for that one. Today.. Slaf is ahead of Wright and is considered a better deal..

Difference of opinions on this one.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 15 at 10:15 a.m.
Thread: If Zegras is on the market
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>It’s higher, but a lot of that is because Zergras has been hurt. If healthy, they are pretty close to being on par with each other.</div></div>

I would disagree since if you compare their stats:

- Caufield (23yrs old) has a -12 in the last 99 games with 78 pts;
- Zegras (22 yrs old) has a -29 in 101 games and 72 pts.

I'm not saying Zegras doesn't have value, but he's not a straight up trade, even for Slaf, SUzuki, Mailloux, Hudson or Reinbacher... That +/- is a chance HABS take on where he'll either develop or never understand how he need to play when in his zone. I'm not against giving up a top4 to 10 1st rounder but not a currently important player for the future of the organization.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 15 at 9:37 a.m.
Thread: Ducks 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MTLaveragefan</b></div><div>I rather take my chances with the pick. Zegras was a top 10 pick... not a top 5. We can find a Zegras through the draft... and not have to pay him 7.8M+ next year.</div></div>

Top 5 to 10's aren't always a sure thing. Next draft is ok but not GREAT! Zegras is a proven NHLer that can play, yeah his defensive skills aren't great,b ut he's 22 and if the Ducks are ready to part ways to get something in return, HABS should make a play since our great and best move ever by Hugues to carry the 2nd line has played less NHL games over the past 4 years than a 4th depth chart liner and isn't looking good for next year either. I'm one of the few who thinks we should've kept Romanov .. Dach ain't a sure player that can play 75% of a season.. He was a way too high risk for a 1st round pick. That's a bad Hugues move even if lots of peeps say Dach was a great move.. It would've been had he been able to play..

So I'd add the protected top 3, but other than that you don't get a Zegras in the Draft 2024 ready to play in the NHL. And his contract still as 2 more years, so no idea why indicate having to pay him 7.8M$ next year.

The only asset I'd remove here would be Dvorak, Duck don't need him, they can call up a younger player and understand they'll tank for another year to get better draft picks.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 13 at 2:33 p.m.
Thread: WHo goes who stays at TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Obcd1</b></div><div>Monahan was the only trade. I don't expect the Habs to make another trade. Allen performance just removed him from consideration, if he moves it will be in the summer when only one year is left on his contract. Same for Armia. Harris is injured, a concussion I guess, I don't expect him back this season.</div></div>

Agreed, but you never know hence why I did this and see if anything happens how I compared to the reality. But yeah, I agree..

Monahan may be the only real tradeable asset we had worth moving.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_need_Scoring</b></div><div>Allen gonna be hard to move atleast he has a few great starts before the deadline, Armia is a no go for any team, Harris a possibility but that depends what happens with this most recent injury.

Savard could make sense if a team was is looking at filling a hole on d for this year and next. Kovacevic is an interesting one, he wont yeild much but anyone looking to add a little insurance to their backend would be interested. He a 6/7dman for most but he is solid, physical and does a good job playing within his limits.

Anderson probably not getting move until there's a year left on his deal.</div></div>

All good points.. And I agree.. I'm just wondering if Hugues is able to pull another miracle on ice here. If anyone gets moved, I'll come back here to see how good or bad I faired vs reality.

In the end, our tradeable assets are assets we don't want to move since they are young and we need them to develop.

And can I be extra positive about a team looking for grit and speed to take Anderson off our hands? Dubas has done more stupid moves before.. Maybe he'll bite if Hugues calls him to take on the contract! LOL!
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12 at 9:38 a.m.
Thread: Would Hugues play for Zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Black61</b></div><div>Habs easily pass on that holy.

They are not giving up their top 10 pick for him.</div></div>

The guy is 22 years old.. Hugues is looking for a young team that can grow together. They have enough players to help grow the ANA blue line, and that pick wouldn't be an issue if they get top 5. From 6 to 10.. Why not? between the 6th and 15th pick, there are not much difference based on your needs when you have the current prospects list that will come out for 2024 Draft.

Zegras is 22 years old.. Given the chance to improve his game could potentially make him better defensively and become the player he was expected to in the next 2-3 years which is what Hugues seems to be looking forward to. Hell, he traded a 1st round for Dach... He's a skilled player, great center and very good in both aspects of the game... when he plays.. Why not trade for another young player who can play C?

That is all speculation at this point. Let's see if ANA actually want to move him out.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12 at 9:30 a.m.
Thread: Would Hugues play for Zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Black61</b></div><div>https://twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1744842893913653570?lang=en

Using a top 10 pick on a replacement level defense player whos never had 70 point seems like a bad investment.

He is always going to be a guy who you cant rely on as a top line player because he cant play against other teams best lines. He will and already does get destroyed.

Atleast with somepne like Catton or helenius even if they they end up as a 50ish point guy they can atleast be versatile enough to not have to shelter like crazy</div></div>

... you know he's freaking 22 years old right? You know that players of his style don't become more responsible defensively before the age of 24 right?

Not every guy can play defensively right off the bat in the NHL. This is all tied to coaching and player's acceptance of their style and ability to get convinced that they need to improve certain aspects. As they get more experienced, as they get a bit older, they tend to stop relying on just their offensive skills and start looking at how they play. Otherwise, the team will put them with more defensive style players and let them have their go at it.

But to say he'll always be this or that.. He's 22... He's got 2 to 3 years of development still to go. The only reason I see fit that ANA would trade him out, would be because of the contract negotiations that happened to add strain to the org.. If they can get a 1st round pick, a couple of good prospects and an experienced player, would they think about it? I'm not talking about my trade, just from any other team that would put their assets on the table.

As for mine, I think Beck, Harris, Kovacevic, a first and a veteran in Pearson would be the assets Habs would put out there for him. Not saying it would get him, just saying it's what I'd give..