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Forum: NHLAug. 7, 2019 at 11:56 p.m.
Forum: NHL TradesJun. 30, 2019 at 2:11 p.m.
Thread: (PIT/ARI) - Kessel, Birks, 2021 4th for Galchenyuk, Joseph
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>krakowitz</b></div><div>This is a great deal for both sides.

Kessel is reunited with Tocchet. and the Yotes get the raw skill that they need in their lineup. Kessel will be improving the PP and 5v5 scoring, as well as helping players like Keller and Schmaltz improve. He's exactly the type of player the Coyotes need and will be a big boost to their playoff push this year.

Galchenyuk didn't really do a lot to drive play for the Yotes, but he doesn't have to do that in Pittsburgh. He can be a passenger and let Geno drive the play, and really let his shot be his best weapon. It wasn't able to be utilized that well with the Coyotes. PO is a solid prospect, instantly their best D in the pipeline. That's not saying much, but it's something that they needed in their system.

I give the edge to the Coyotes because they got the best player in the deal, but it works out for both, especially with Pittsburgh getting much needed cap relief of almost $3M.</div></div>
better check your numbers there, they got under 2mil in cap relief. The rest is a reasonable take though.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2019 at 3:21 p.m.
Thread: 2019-20 Penguins
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MichaelFu</b></div><div>So I am curious to ask, what would you offer from the Penguins perspective for Anthinasiou?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>biglite351</b></div><div>I'm not a fan of his so its a rough call. i think last year was more the fluke than his future path...

I could go Bjugstad or Maatta plus a little something. No salary retention. Bjugstad and Athanasiou aren't that far apart offensively. Bjugstad is no Selke-guy at all but is better defensively. Bjugstad is considerably more physical (Athanasiou is near Kessel levels of physicality). Bjugstad and a 3rd or a 2nd if pushed. For argument sake, I'll go Bjugstad and a 2nd. Bjugstad being the better all-around player but the 2nd being to offset for the "potential" and the cap difference.

$2 and "potential" will get you a cup of coffee at Get-Go.

But I am fine with just having Bjugstad.</div></div>

I would do Bjugstad and a 3rd for him, (no retention…) anymore than that and I pass.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 8, 2019 at 11:42 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 8, 2019 at 9:21 p.m.
Thread: IF it must happen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PenGoater99</b></div><div>1. Maatta's value isn't that high according to Elliotte Freidman, the Pens have tried to move him before and nothing has materialized, I really doubt Montreal even thinks about something like this even though it addresses a need for them.
2. Gudbranson played well down the stretch, yes, but that was a very small sample size, there's a very low chance he plays like that for an extended amount of time, it comes down to moving money at that point
3. In this scenario, Malkin is traded to Florida under the assumption they miss out on Panarin and Bobrovsky. He would give them arguably the best top 6 in the league
3a. It will be hard to get more than that for Kessel, even though his cap hit and production are attractive, his age is a big detractor
3b. Similar case to Kessel. Name is a selling point, but age is a risk. This deal is about what the Pens should expect in any potential deal, a replacement, another roster player a 1st and another piece</div></div>

1. Im highly skeptical of that. They should easily be able trade him for at minimum a third but likely more. While he is most likely to be traded they don't necessarily need to trade him.

2. That is a terrible argument smh. So he played well but better dump him fast is your logic? If they just wanted to move him for the sake of moving him they could get a draft pick for him WITHOUT ANY retention. If you really wanted to move money retention would be a nonstarter. Take out the pick sending out and taking out the retention, so its just gudbranson for a mid/late round pick then it would be more reasonable. They don't need to add any sweeteners into the deal.

3. Ok In that case If they do miss out in free agency I could see them highly interested in Malkin. But that means any possible trade likely wouldn't be til after the draft. Which means picks couldn't be 2019 ones.
3a and 3b any team that wants to win right now really doesn't care that much about age although it is one factor. The penguins don't really need to trade either one so if they don't get a better package than these they should simply say no. If the Arizona pick was a top 5 or 6 pick I would be fine with that deal. But it will only be a handful in front of the penguins own pick so they should need to add. Floridas pick also isn't that high(plus as established above, if they miss out on free agency the trade would be involving 2020 picks, and their pick is likely to be even worse if they add big to their current roster) and while Trocheck is a very good player, Malkin is a generational type player. These trades are a good start but would need to both add a bit. These are closer than most of the trades on here at least.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 7, 2019 at 11:42 p.m.
Thread: IF it must happen
1. you are immensely undervaluing Maatta. He is worth a second on his own.
2. You are overblowing the Gudbranson contract, they don't need to do a terrible trade like that. He actually played well after they traded for him. They aren't gonna give up assets to get rid of him, and they sure as heck aren't gonna retain on it.
3. Im not in favor of trading kessel or geno, but IF it were to happen, Arizona would be a reasonable destination for Phil. Florida doesn't make as much sense however, if they want to sign both Panarin and Bob, and take on a net of 5million in acquiring malkin, they would have to unload several other pieces to get under the cap.
3a. As for the fairness of the deals. I think you need to get a bit more for Kessel although that's in the relative ballpark.
3b. While I like Trocheck you need to get more in any deal that moves malkin away.