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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 26, 2017 at 8:24 p.m.
Thread: What's the Maatta? (A TRADE WITH MINNESOTA)
Yeah this doesn't make sense at all. They likely give up the 3 best assets in the deal (or 3 of the 4). I'm not giving up a top-6 forward and top-4 d for Hornqvist and spare parts, especially considering Hornqvist is going to 31 next year and getting another fairly decent pay day. Last thing the Wild need is another old, overpaid guy on their roster. And Hornqvist is a third-liner on a good team at this point in his career.

Also, they really already have what Hornqvist gives them. Coyle and Nino play similar games. They definitely don't have anybody else like Zucker.

As for the draft picks, seems like the Wild get the Penguins picks when the Penguins are guaranteed to be really good (so lower) and the Penguins get the Wild picks as they are likely to start to fall off some (higher), so Pittsburgh is even getting the better end of that part of the deal!

Just seems like it's absolutely a non-starter from the beginning, even if you add Maatta and take out Cole.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2017 at 5:12 p.m.
Thread: Getting really creative. MIN fans care to comment?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wabit</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bchapman88</b></div><div>

That's what I mean though; this trade likely has them taking a step back this year. At best next year some of the young guys will challenge for spots and then hopefully a year or two after that they'd be back to where they are now at that position.

And if you plan on sliding Nino back over to LW that really leaves Coyle and Pominville as the only legit Top-9 RW options, which is frightening.

If you trade Granlund for a package like this you're having to sign, imo, two top-9 C/RW players (depending on where you see Ek playing).

I also have trouble understanding the allure of Kane anymore. It's been 4 or 5 years since he had a good season. Part of that is Buffalo, part of that is his play, and part of that is his off-ice/injury troubles.

Like I said, I think this would be a step-back for the Wild and with the contracts/players they have that doesn't really make sense.</div></div>

A step back really would mean making the Playoffs as a Wild Card and getting bounced in the first round. Instead of making the Playoffs as a 2 seed and getting bounced in the first round like last year.</div></div>

Lmao sadly this is probably very true

I'd much rather keep Zucker too.

I'm not convinced Pommer has it in him to play top-9 minutes anymore over the course of a season.

In any event, I think that's a decision I would make next summer when I had a better handle on that roster and cap situation then. I'm just afraid they make a move like that one year too soon and then are left scrambling to replace that production before the young guys are ready.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2017 at 4:36 p.m.
Thread: Getting really creative. MIN fans care to comment?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wabit</b></div><div>

Not really. They have a lot of LW depth in Parise, Nino, and Zucker already on the roster. Kunin, Kaprizov, and Greenway all potentially challenging for roster spots after next season, then add Dal Colle to that group. They should be able to get a decent 3rd liner for relatively cheap. Or it could open up a Scandella for Kane (base) trade that's been rumored for awhile now.</div></div>

That's what I mean though; this trade likely has them taking a step back this year. At best next year some of the young guys will challenge for spots and then hopefully a year or two after that they'd be back to where they are now at that position.

And if you plan on sliding Nino back over to LW that really leaves Coyle and Pominville as the only legit Top-9 RW options, which is frightening.

If you trade Granlund for a package like this you're having to sign, imo, two top-9 C/RW players (depending on where you see Ek playing).

I also have trouble understanding the allure of Kane anymore. It's been 4 or 5 years since he had a really good season. Part of that is Buffalo, part of that is his play, and part of that is his off-ice/injury troubles.

Like I said, I think this would be a step-back for the Wild and with the contracts/players they have that doesn't really make sense.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2017 at 4:25 p.m.
Thread: Wild 2018?
I think Nino is likely getting underpaid here by $250,000-$500,000 per.

I also think Pominville is overvalued and Scandella undervalued (although I'm not at all high on Spooner like some are). I'm not sure if Pominville will cost to get rid of or not; doesn't seem like anything I've read has a good handle on it. If not, at best I'd think the Wild would get a late rounder for him and cap relief.

In this scenario I'd rather just keep Scandella and spend the extra $1 million per year than trade him for this and sign Stone. I wouldn't sign both Desharnais and Parenteau and definitely wouldn't give either of them 2 years, same with Vrbata. IMO Wild don't need to keep singing older guys to multiple year deals just to have them potentially blocking some young player from getting more ice time unless they are significant upgrades and it this point in their careers I'm not sure any of them are. I'd be interested in Vrbata on a 1 year deal but no more.

I also wouldn't give up a 2nd for Khaira. I don't think he's shown that type of value.