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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27, 2019 at 5:28 p.m.
Thread: Leafs arent CAP screwed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buds16</b></div><div>stone should never be mentioned in the same sentence as kuch. I'd love to compare stone and Marner but Marner is more dynamic, more consistent, puts up more points and on a team with plenty of stars, out plays them all. Stone was over paid(for a understandable reason). I don't know if this hurts the leafs or helps them though. compare them as equal, then get marner for a cheap 9.5, consider marner a way better player(he is) then 10+ is expected.</div></div>

I don't know if Marner is a way better player at all. They're both great players and they play different games even if they do play the same position. If it came right down to it and I had to make a choice between who I would rather have on a team it would be a tough call for me, and for many others would be my guess too..

As for Kucherov, I completely agree. He is a way better player than both marner and Stone right now. Can marner become as good as Kuch? I think he has a very real shot of doing so.. but he's not there right now..
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 24, 2019 at 2:22 p.m.
Thread: How To Fix The Oilers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OilersFan77</b></div><div>Klefbom was drafted in the 1st round. And na, the drafts Chia was here for turned out quite well for the Oilers. 2015: McDavid (not giving credit for that one obviously lol), Jones, Bear - 2016: Puljujarvi, Benson, Niemalainen, Wells - 2017: Yamo, Skinner, Samorukov, Safin, Maksimov - 2018: Bouchard, Mcleod, Rodrigue. I only included players who have either played in the NHL, have taken a big step since their draft year (i.e. Maksimov going from 22 points in his draft year to 80 the next), or are simply considered promising prospects by those more familiar with them than I.</div></div>

Bouchard is the only player listed that is actually a top level prospect. The rest you may get a decent depth player or two. The oilers also have a long track record of doing almost nothing for player development. Draft, don't develop and then have no depth. That is what Edmonton has done.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsOct. 17, 2018 at 3:18 p.m.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsOct. 17, 2018 at 12:51 p.m.
Thread: Nylander is worth way more than people think
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buds16</b></div><div>I know you are a huge stats guy and we've had this debate before. There is more to hockey than stats. When the entire hockey community believe peak is in the 26-29 range then there is validity to it. its not just numbers either. Players play both ends of the ice as they get older. Ovi is the perfect example of this. 100+ points 4 out of 5 of his first seasons, then a drop to 80-90. Thats cause he started crossing his blueline and is WAY better for it. This is what i have found when quickly looking at some superstars stats.

And to your point, if Willy's gonna peak at 24, why would the leafs give him 7+ long term when during most of that contract he's going to be declining. Willy's better off signing a 2-3 bridge if he wants 7+ eventually. He's a really good damn player, but right now, no where near as good as he thinks he is going to be and won't be paid it.</div></div>

Players evolve and that can't be denied but the reality is, physically they peak at about 24. Then they spend the next 6 years hovering close to the same and then start declining in their 30s. This is a trend that is very easy to follow. So how does it make sense to bridge a guy for 2-3 years (ages 22-25) and then give him a massive 8 year deal that is paying for the best 3 years of his career only to lose value as the player is in his early 30's? Why not lock them up for their best years at a fair price and then give yourself negotiating power on contract 3 since the player will be 30. At that age, he can't command a massive term and cap hit since there is a mountain of evidence showing this player's best hockey is in the rear view mirror.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsOct. 17, 2018 at 9:19 a.m.
Thread: Nylander is worth way more than people think
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buds16</b></div><div>If you were only comparing to Marner, then fine, last year it could be debated easily. But Nylander isn't even on the same planet as Matthews, there's no debate and the entire hockey world knows it.

As for having the puck at the end of the game, Marner has shown that he is the guy for that. And so far this season, has been one of the best in the league if not the best play maker. I have no doubt Nylander can get the puck to someone in a scoring position and is likely one of the better players at it, but no chance I'd want him over Marner distributing the puck.

I don't ultimately think the debate is over if Willy is good enough to earn 7+. On some teams he would. Just not a contending team. Its the reality of a cap world. If he wants to win, he will make himself fit. If he wants the dollars, well he can be a super star on a losing team then. What i see is the most unfortunate part about all this is, the longer he waits, the more of a T.O. whipping boy he'll become.(I guess thats good for Gards,lol) Not sure Willy can handle that.</div></div>

I think you miss understand me, Matthews is the best player on the Leafs and its not close. I would also put Tavares ahead of Nylander. Where I take issue is when people treat him like he's just a 60 point winger. A good but not great player. Nylander will be a guy who scores 80-90 points on a regular basis, he's shown more than enough potential to assume he is going to be that kind of player with TO.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 16, 2018 at 10:59 a.m.
Thread: Nylander deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MG1986</b></div><div>I've watched every game this season, and I can tell you, from my own perspective, the Leafs defence has been playing subpar when it comes to defending. Yes, they've been lucky, and yes, offensive possession certainly makes them look better because pressure is off of defending, but the amount of giveaways they let up, not to mention the shots they give up against, has already and will continue to bite them. Hainsey is a bottom pairing, yet he has been getting 1st pairing minutes - that's not a sign of a strong D group. This current group may get them through the season no problem based on the amount they score and control the puck, but it won't do them any favours come playoff time.</div></div>

Shots against is such a stupid thing to be worried about. NHL goalies can face 50 shots and be expected to post a shutout if all of those shots are from outside. Look at last night, TO was outshot but they had the best chances in the game and won. LA looked slow and couldn't defend against the Leafs speed. TO's offense focusses on getting the puck at the net with speed and it works. Defensively they did a great job of protecting the slot and almost all the shots came from outside and Sparks was equal to the task.

What people should focus on is quality of chances.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 26, 2018 at 1:55 p.m.
Thread: Just think about it and hear me out
I understand where you are coming from but this is way off base.

Faulk is essentially the same thing as Gardiner but likely even worse defensively. Bean isn't needed, the Leafs have several young prospects coming up that can fill holes so there is no need to jump the gun and overpay for Bean or Faulk.

The Leafs defence isn't a problem, its just not nearly as good as their offence and that to some means its a big issue. It just isn't nearly as big as people think it is.

With the offense this team will run with, what they need are fast and mobile players on the back end who make smart decisions and can go retrieve the puck in their end before forecheckers get there. I see a lineup something like this in 3 years for TO.

Rielly with Liljegren
Dermott/Rosen with Zaitsev
Sandin with Ozhiganov

Maybe Ozhiganov plays with Rielly, I don't know or care. This isn't going to be nearly as much of a problem as others think it will be.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 21, 2018 at 2:11 p.m.
Thread: Nylander
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SmugTkachuk</b></div><div>Name another 'Powerhouse" NHL tame that has made it past the 1st round only once since 2005. If what you are saying is the case, why hasn't he signed? The way you are describing it makes it sound like he is absolutely chomping at the bit to get on the ice in Toronto.</div></div>

He likely is but he's letting his agent negotiate a long term deal. The only thing that is actually accurate with all the rumours flying around is that both sides are negotiating and both want long term deals. Nothing has been leaked by either side saying anything to the contrary. I don't understand why people seem to hate the Leafs more than they like their own team but all of this crap is irrational and silly.

You can speculate all you want but Sportsnet just posted a story about players who held out for periods of training camps and almost all are still with their respective teams. Johanson is the only one who isn't and he was traded to Nashville for Seth Jones.

Here is the reality bud, TO has one of, if not the best offence in the entire league. The team wants Nylander to be part of that, Dubas, Babcock and several players have all mentioned this. Nylander himself is on record saying he wants to be in TO Long term and will let his agent work towards that exact thing. Everything else is speculation and rumours.

In the very near future, the most shocking event of the preseason will be this.

Nylander signs a multi year extension with the Maple Leafs.

That is probably in the 99% likely to happen range. If he does get moved, it won't be for a disappointing defenceman, a ok prospect, a dissapointing 1st round pick and a 1st rounder. Although that pick is likely to be somewhere in the 10-15 range so its not terrible.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 21, 2018 at 2:00 p.m.
Thread: Nylander
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SmugTkachuk</b></div><div>Don't you think different GM's have different styles of working contracts? Treliving has a record of signing RFA's to friendly deals.
That's a stupid argument, obviously no one is giving up Nylander for Bennett, that is why there are more pieces in the trade than him? Did you see that or you just saw Bennett? There is no bail out there it's a low cost middle 6 winger that can take draws...</div></div>

Calgary is a perennial underachieving team, Toronto is a powerhouse. Why would Nylander sign a more team friendly deal for the team that would be much more inclined to offer more due to the fact they have far bigger holes than Toronto? Treliving has a record of not making the playoffs. Play for a cup on Matthews wing for the same price you offered or play with much worse players for the same amount. Where is the logic here?
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 7, 2018 at 11:12 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 7, 2018 at 4:40 a.m.
Thread: Offer Sheets Theoidore at 7.2m
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>SMH i just blasted you on another post for not being able to comprehend the purpose of this site .

we get it you need an outlet to distract you from how rotten your life's going but jesus guy grow up</div></div>

"blasted" me on which post? :D lol.. My life is really good, not rotten at all and Im more than grown up.. This site is to get to other people to talk about trades, realistic signings and all that hockey stuff.. 7.2 million for 2nd pairing defender is too much to be even close to reality. Its stupid if I have to be completely honest, but if you were to trade for Theodore, giving him 4mil dollar 4-5yr deal and you would get possibly right deal for him for less than what you are giving to Vegas. Also offersheet compensation needs to be from upcoming draft which means 2019 1st (lottery pick), 2nd and 3rd round picks. Makes zero sense for Montreal to do this and its massive overpayment for top-4 guy. 7.2mil is 675k mil less than what Hedman got and he is arguably the best D in the league..
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 5, 2018 at 12:02 p.m.
Thread: 2018-19 Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>biglite351</b></div><div>That's just not a realistic position.... but whatever makes you happy.</div></div>

Just do the math... there are plenty of agm’s posted showing how simple the math works.

I’m just not sure if you think players will be paid more or you haven’t factored in cap raise and ltir.

We will exit this season with 5-6m in space. Add gardiner, hainsey and hortons salary. Then add the salary of the 4 rfa’s we need to sign (3.5m) then a modest cap increase of 2m.

You are left with 23m to sign Marner, Matthews, kappy and Johnson. I don’t see the difficulty there. There should be an answer soon as to how much we will be handing over to the big three. I’m thinking in the next few days there should be an announcement for all three.

If you think the big three will be making more than 26m thean that is where we disagree.

If their contracts come in high then there are plenty of mobile pieces on our team that we can move for healthy returns.

Simple...