For all who need to hear this, MTL and Winnipeg fans alike.
MTL fans:
1. your leverage is only if Dubois is ONLY willing to sign long term in MTL. There is no single statement anywhere that suggests this is the case. Dubois has called much of the rumours “fake news” when asked about them. And his agent said what he said in a speculative manner when asked directly about mtl. MTL has no leverage if he is willing to sign elsewhere.
Now, I’m going to assume that he’s only willing to sign in MTL for the sake of argument.
MTL Fans: Your leverage starts once you beat the other 30 teams in the league. Regardless of if he’s willing to sign long term or not, teams will be willing to pay a rental price for dubois. That means a 1st, decent roster player, and a high end prospect. And you, as MTL, have to beat that offer for the jets to consider your offer. Your leverage in this case comes in beyond that. If Dubois is only going to sign in MTL, you only have to pay a rental price for him, not a long term dubois you would be getting.
WPG Fans: Unless you are adding something significant in addition, MTL isn’t moving 5 oa, just stop, it’s embarrassing. If Dubois was coming with a long term extension and he was also willing to sign elsewhere, you may have a case for 5 oa. But even then, I think MTL moves on for the price and keeps what they have.
My thoughts: MTL definitely has leverage, but not nearly as much as their fans think. With the above being true (and it unarguably is), I think Dubois has a short list of teams he’s willing to sign an extension with. MTL is definitely on that list. But I also think a team like LA or NYR might be as well. It will be a small list because I think Dubois wants to be in a big market and also wants to go to a winning team, but the list is there. So yes, you have some leverage being one of the only teams he’s willing to sign long term with, but you aren’t the only one in my opinion. Is Dach reasonable? I think it depends on what MTL thinks of him and Dubois. If they think Dach will never get to the point dubois is already at (which is my opinion), I think they would be open to including him in a deal. Otherwise, I think the jets need to look at a different guy like Barron. This is what I think happens. Just my opinion based on the above. (Similar to the Trouba trade)
Of course this is made by a WPG fan. Idk what is so difficult to understand in that Dach's trade value is greater than PLDs trade value, let alone adding another first.
Of course this is made by a WPG fan. Idk what is so difficult to understand in that Dach's trade value is greater than PLDs trade value, let alone adding another first.
Both are similar age and Dach has done nothing to impressive. Dubois can take over a game, Dach has never shown that, he literally only got 38 points as his career high and MTL fans think he is the next Gretz
Put it this way, if Dubois is willing to sign long term in Winnipeg, I wouldnt do this trade as I personally think an extended Dubois is worth way more than 31/32 OA and Dach
Habs are not trading Dach. Dvorak and Kidney are those who are going to be offered and the first will be Florida pick or habs 2024 with a huge amount of protection. Others team knowing that he is a pure rental won't commit to pay a decent roster player for him therefore Habs leverage is the biggest obstacle for Winnipeg GM.
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