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Why the leafs are screwed after this season

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Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:34 p.m.
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What do you mean??? Can't they play with 14 players??? Sticking Out Tongue sarcasm
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Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:37 p.m.
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just an FYI, you should have raised your cap between 82.5M-84.0M... just saying

To give them a chance, Put Marner at 8.5M and Nylander a 7.0M wink
Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:38 p.m.
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They think they can. Don't you know that they just need these players to out score every team in the league smile Apparently defence is a foreign word to them.
Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:39 p.m.
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The jealousy and vitriol directed towards the Leafs right now is amazing. Truly enjoyable. Thanks for yet another post to reinforce the league-wide butt hurt going on.

I think the plan is to with the Stanley Cup this year and then fold the franchise. Go out on top.
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Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:40 p.m.
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I agree it's going to be tough but to begin with, I think you're about $10M higher than the actual payroll will be. (Leafs fans are assuming Matthews $11M, Marner $7M and Nylander $6M, with Horton's $5.3M going to the LTIR list.) That means Dubas has to find 10 players (incl a back-up G) for an average of $1M each -- not an insurmountable task.
Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:42 p.m.
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just an FYI, you should have raised your cap between 82.5M-84.0M... just saying

To give them a chance, Put Marner at 8.5M and Nylander a 7.0M wink


So add 6M for 9 players?
Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:43 p.m.
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@alpine4life done. I changed their contracts. They're still over the cap.
Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:43 p.m.
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So add 6M for 9 players?


basically... yes :P
Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:44 p.m.
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The jealousy and vitriol directed towards the Leafs right now is amazing. Truly enjoyable. Thanks for yet another post to reinforce the league-wide butt hurt going on.

I think the plan is to with the Stanley Cup this year and then fold the franchise. Go out on top.


Hilariously right-on! As a big fan of the downtrodden (I started in hockey along with the Islanders, started rooting for the Kings in the 90's and adopted Las Vegas before their expansion draft), it's good to see Toronto re-emerging. I bet the Leafs make it at least as far as the Eastern finals this year.
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Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:44 p.m.
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I'm not jealous @juice. My team has defence but you wouldn't know what that is would you?
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Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:44 p.m.
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Gardiner will walk and be replaced with a cheap farm hand.

They can make it work but they may have to trade Kapanen in the off season. They will have an additional 6.25 million available the year after next as well. So really they can load up this season, go cheap on the back end next and then reload again.

But what if the following happens.

What if that new Russian guy plays decently, what if Carrick plays well enough and what happens if one of the young Marlie defenders impresses next season. The Leafs could ice a defence that is better than last years and it could cost less than it does now.
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Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:45 p.m.
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I agree it's going to be tough but to begin with, I think you're about $10M higher than the actual payroll will be. (Leafs fans are assuming Matthews $11M, Marner $7M and Nylander $6M, with Horton's $5.3M going to the LTIR list.) That means Dubas has to find 10 players (incl a back-up G) for an average of $1M each -- not an insurmountable task.


You are right....But who wants half their team with players only good enuf for 1m each. This is Toronto's problem. I am a Jets fan and know that we are going to have problems soon with our players when they only make 6-7M for our top players....Not 11M+....
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Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:45 p.m.
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They'd need D for that @OldNYIfan. Another first round exit for them this year
Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:52 p.m.
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I'm not jealous @juice. My team has defence but you wouldn't know what that is would you?


This is a typical response as of late. Get challenged on your original argument so quickly change course to something else. Can't even admit it's a troll post and now you're trying to add legitimacy to it.

No, the Leafs D isn't anywhere as good as Boston. No one would argue that it is. Also, the earth orbits around the sun. Any other obvious facts we should discuss?
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Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:57 p.m.
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Toronto is going to have to get rid of a top 4 defencemen and either Nylander or Marner for it to work. Now this is workable but its going to be interesting to see it unfold. I am not a troll against Toronto but I am a realist.
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Jul. 4, 2018 at 3:59 p.m.
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Toronto is going to have to get rid of a top 4 defencemen and either Nylander or Marner for it to work. Now this is workable but its going to be interesting to see it unfold. I am not a troll against Toronto but I am a realist.


Also, Toronto can get rid of Matthews and receive some serious assets. They did get Tavares for free....
Jul. 4, 2018 at 4:00 p.m.
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You didn't challenge me with anything. You just said it was "jealousy and vitriol directed towards the Leafs" and now saying this is a troll post and I'm showing you boneheaded Leafs fans why you're screwed after this season. Why would I be butt-hurt about another first round exit by the queefs?
Jul. 4, 2018 at 4:03 p.m.
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You didn't challenge me with anything. You just said it was "jealousy and vitriol directed towards the Leafs" and now saying this is a troll post and I'm showing you boneheaded Leafs fans why you're screwed after this season. Why would I be butt-hurt about another first round exit by the queefs?


Because when a post/comments resort to insults it shows immaturity and a poor level of understanding of how the Leafs will look moving forward.

If there was any attempt to legitimately show leaf fans that 'they're screwed' you would have put more than 2min of effort into the ACGM team...or maybe look at any one of the thousand ACGM teams posted by a Toronto fan to see how the money works.
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Jul. 4, 2018 at 4:07 p.m.
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Because when a post/comments resort to insults it shows immaturity and a poor level of understanding of how the Leafs will look moving forward.

If there was any attempt to legitimately show leaf fans that 'they're screwed' you would have put more than 2min of effort into the ACGM team...or maybe look at any one of the thousand ACGM teams posted by a Toronto fan to see how the money works.


How would you know how much effort I put into this. In fact I spent more then 2mins. Most of the Leafs AGM teams are pipedreams so that's not really a place to look for some inspiration. Also, there's been no insults to begin with.
Jul. 4, 2018 at 4:10 p.m.
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https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/768876

ahhhh the jealousy consumes the league. click the above an I think it shows the #s can/will work. after all we do have a math genius running the team.

I love how all the commentary here is from Jets/Bruins/Isles fans. Fact is JT91 , was under paid previously. had a crap team put around him, in a stadium that was falling apart / made for the basketball team, and made no promises to anyone publically that he was staying. He served his 8 years on the Island fair and square..

Now he is properly paid, has a well oiled machine of a management structure around him, playing for his boyhood team, endorsements galore (if he wanted them), close to friends and family, has an amazing young roster around him. Every team in the league would want JT91, and would/will make the sacrifices to make it happen. so why is everyone so butt hurt he made the decision that was best for him....... Like doughty/Stamkos/etc.
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Jul. 4, 2018 at 4:13 p.m.
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Ehhhhhhh, not really. The cap will be between $83-85 million. Kapanen will sign for less. Nylander will be around 6-6,500 million. The leafs could also easily buy out Marleau and trade Gardiner to find some cap space. Heck, Marner could also take a hometown discount if he wanted to stay with the team he grew up loving and watching. Little things like this could add up to potentially $8-10 million. Don't get me wrong, I'm a leafs fan and I also think they will have a tough time keeping all these stars. I definitely don't think they are screwed in anyway, they just will have to get a bit creative with the upcoming contracts.
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Jul. 4, 2018 at 4:15 p.m.
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Quoting: jluqueSF
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/768876

ahhhh the jealousy consumes the league. click the above an I think it shows the #s can/will work. after all we do have a math genius running the team.

I love how all the commentary here is from Jets/Bruins/Isles fans. Fact is JT91 , was under paid previously. had a crap team put around him, in a stadium that was falling apart / made for the basketball team, and made no promises to anyone publically that he was staying. He served his 8 years on the Island fair and square..

Now he is properly paid, has a well oiled machine of a management structure around him, playing for his boyhood team, endorsements galore (if he wanted them), close to friends and family, has an amazing young roster around him. Every team in the league would want JT91, and would/will make the sacrifices to make it happen. so why is everyone so butt hurt he made the decision that was best for him....... Like doughty/Stamkos/etc.


This is not a jealous post. I could care less that JT91 went there. I'm happy he didn't coming to Boston and happy we can save money for better players to trade for. At no point did I say I wanted JT91 so I fail to see your point.
Jul. 4, 2018 at 4:17 p.m.
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Ehhhhhhh, not really. The cap will be between $83-85 million. Kapanen will sign for less. Nylander will be around 6-6,500 million. The leafs could also easily buy out Marleau and trade Gardiner to find some cap space. Heck, Marner could also take a hometown discount if he wanted to stay with the team he grew up loving and watching. Little things like this could add up to potentially $8-10 million. Don't get me wrong, I'm a leafs fan and I also think they will have a tough time keeping all these stars. I definitely don't think they are screwed in anyway, they just will have to get a bit creative with the upcoming contracts.


This I can agree with however I don't think Marner will do the hometown discount especially since he's one of the Leafs only playoff producers. He knows his value and he will take top dollar.
Jul. 4, 2018 at 4:20 p.m.
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How would you know how much effort I put into this. In fact I spent more then 2mins. Most of the Leafs AGM teams are pipedreams so that's not really a place to look for some inspiration. Also, there's been no insults to begin with.


Yes...silly me....I should have known referring to a franchise as 'queefs' was a term of endearment.

You're betting off rolling with the fact this ACGM team is a troll. You've since edited many items...but If you spent time on it and wanted it to be taken seriously...you would have:

a) Increased the cap
b) Horton goes on full cap relief
c) Signed players closer to expected figures (this has been edited since)

The Leafs have players at the AHL level ready to fill in bottom 6 roles, all making under $1m right now.

It's possible to get all RFA's signed to fair market contracts and be under the cap. No, our defence will not be feared by our opponents...but the team was right around average last year defensively and will likely be average again this year.
Jul. 4, 2018 at 4:20 p.m.
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They will be fine. I'm not saying someone won't get dealt but its not as bad as you think.
 
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