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Simmonds trades at TDL - 5 possibilities I have in mind

Created by: SammyT_51

Team: 2018-19 Philadelphia Flyers

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 18, 2019

Published: Jan. 18, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

PHI

Hartman, Ryan
2019 1st round pick (NSH)

NSH

Simmonds, Wayne

PHI

Brown
2019 1st

TOR

Simmonds

PHI

2019 1st
Nichushkin (retained)

DAL

Simmer

PHI

JT Miller

TBL

Wayne Simmonds

PHI

Heinen
2020 1st

BOS

Buyouts

Ilya Bryzgalov: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2018
2019
2020
2021

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
27	$79,500,000	$63,327,916	$0	$4,827,500	$16,172,084

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Giroux, Claude $4,137,500$4,137,500 RW, C NMC UFA - 4	Couturier, Sean $4,333,333$4,333,333 C UFA - 4	Voracek, Jakub $8,250,000$8,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 6
Lindblom, Oskar $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) LW UFA - 2	Laughton, Scott $962,500$962,500 C, LW UFA - 1
van Riemsdyk, James $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 5	Patrick, Nolan $925,000$925,000 ($2,650,000$3M) C, RW UFA - 2	Weise, Dale $2,350,000$2,350,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Lehterä, Jori $4,700,000$4,700,000 LW, C UFA - 1		Konecny, Travis $894,167$894,167 ($425,000$425K) RW, LW UFA - 1
Raffl, Michael $2,350,000$2,350,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Knight, Corban $650,000$650,000 C UFA - 1
Hartman, Ryan $875,000$875,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Varone, Philip $650,000$650,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Gostisbehere, Shayne $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 5	MacDonald, Andrew $5,000,000$5,000,000 RD UFA - 2	Elliott, Brian $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 1
Hägg, Robert $1,150,000$1,150,000 LD UFA - 2	Gudas, Radko $2,345,000$2,345,000 RD UFA - 2	Neuvirth, Michal $2,500,000$2,500,000 G UFA - 1
Provorov, Ivan $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) LD UFA - 1	Sanheim, Travis $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) LD/RD UFA - 1	Stolarz, Anthony $761,250$761,250 G UFA - 1
Morin, Samuel $700,000$700,000 LD, LW UFA - 3	Folin, Christian $650,000$650,000 RD UFA - 1	Hart, Carter $730,833$730,833 ($182,500$182K) G RFA - 3
		McKenna, Mike $700,000$700,000 G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Laberge, Pascal $780,833$780,833 ($107,500$108K) C UFA - 3

Jan. 18, 2019 at 3:58 p.m.

Gofnut999

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I don’t see Boston giving up a 1st for Simmonds.

Jan. 18, 2019 at 4:00 p.m.

ChiHawk

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All very good ideas...well done.

Jan. 18, 2019 at 4:00 p.m.

palhal

LongtimeLeafsufferer

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These Simmons trades in the past month are getting somewhat silly, going be historical past trades. A good Evander Kane was traded for a second and fourth (26 in each round) and Statsny 1st and 4th (27th in each round.

Jan. 18, 2019 at 4:12 p.m.

MikeY

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Quoting: palhal

You can't predict future trades based on past returns. I think you also probably don't understand how Wayne Simmonds is viewed as a player and a person to be able to gauge his return value.

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Jan. 18, 2019 at 4:18 p.m.

ChiHawk

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Quoting: MikeY

You can't predict future trades based on past returns. I think you also probably don't understand how Wayne Simmonds is viewed as a player and a person to be able to gauge his return value.

I think a lot of fans get so wrapped up in stats and don't understand the impact of leadership and team chemistry in general. Evander Kane isn't exactly known as bleeding team blood day in and day out...Simmonds is.

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Jan. 18, 2019 at 4:19 p.m.

mk458

MK458

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I would think Edmonton might be interested if they can string together some wins soon

Jan. 18, 2019 at 4:25 p.m.

MG1986

#LeafsFever

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I just don't see Simmonds fetching the Flyers a 1st as part of a deal, from any team. I would think a deal of Kevin Fiala and a 2nd for Simmonds would do it.

Jan. 18, 2019 at 4:50 p.m.

Bcarlo25

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Quoting: Gofnut999

I don’t see Boston giving up a 1st for Simmonds.

I don't see anyone giving up a first for him

Jan. 18, 2019 at 4:51 p.m.

Phil2893

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Quoting: palhal

And Tomas tater was trade for a first round pick + secound round pick +third round pick

Jan. 18, 2019 at 5:10 p.m.

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Jah1722

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Quoting: ChiHawk

You think Simmonds is worth 2 firsts? NSH gave up a first to get Hartman now adding him to another first to get Simmonds.

Jan. 18, 2019 at 5:20 p.m.

#11

Gofnut999

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

I don't see anyone giving up a first for him

I’m sure someone will. Just won’t be Boston.

Jan. 18, 2019 at 5:24 p.m.

#12

ChiHawk

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Quoting: Jah1722

You think Simmonds is worth 2 firsts? NSH gave up a first to get Hartman now adding him to another first to get Simmonds.

What Nashville paid 2 years ago for Hartman doesn't equate to a 1sts today because Hartman didn't reach his 1st round pick potential today. A player is only worth what they are playing like today and the fit for the other team. Objectively, hartman and late 1st rounder for simmonds is pretty equal based on their current play.

Jan. 18, 2019 at 5:41 p.m.

#13

Jah1722

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Quoting: ChiHawk

Hartman was never worth a first and that trade happened last season. Not 2 seasons ago. Your Hawks made out great in that trade.

Jan. 18, 2019 at 6:51 p.m.

#14

ChiHawk

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Quoting: Jah1722

Hartman was never worth a first and that trade happened last season. Not 2 seasons ago. Your Hawks made out great in that trade.

Sorry last season. Agree, Hartman was never worth a 1st but he filled a big hole on Nashville's team so they paid handsomely to fill that hole.

Jan. 18, 2019 at 6:53 p.m.

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palhal

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Quoting: Phil2893

And Tomas tater was trade for a first round pick + secound round pick +third round pick

How about trying to compare the same thing? Kane, Stastny and Simmons were/are on expiring contracts. Tatar had 3 full seasons and the remaining few months of the 17/18 season.

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Jan. 18, 2019 at 11:25 p.m.

#16

StLHockey

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Quoting: palhal

How about trying to compare the same thing? Kane, Stastny and Simmons were/are on expiring contracts. Tatar had 3 full seasons and the remaining few months of the 17/18 season.

I think it’s also worth pointing out Stasny plays center ice while Kane and Wayne play the wing. Centermen will always bring a higher return because they are a rarer commodity especially mid season.

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