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Laine and Gustafsson

Created by: Billy739
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 1, 2019
Published: Sep. 1, 2019
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
Gustafsson is a 1 year rental and CHI a Cap ****ed team gets a 20 goal scorer for 2.4m long term while also giving them their 2nd back and Cole Fonstad . CHI is in no position to keep EG which is why they've acquired 3 LD in the past 6 months including 2/3 signed for 3 years term.



Laine at 10.75 for the purpose of this post to avoid WPG fans nonsense. We all know in reality you're looking 2 firsts, 1 second and 1 third but let us humor them for argument sake.

Gustafsson's being brought in to buy us a year until Romanov's contracts done in Russia. Gustafsson's 27 in his final year before going UFA which is why Koekkoek,De Hann ,and Maata we're brought in to support Keith on the Left side. CHI capitalized at EDM's expense and now is going to profit from it .

Get back a 1st round pick for Petry , Tatar and Danault before they're UFA in 2 years. By then Caufield will be in MTL as will Suzuki , Brook , Juulsen ,Mete and Romanov.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Laine, Patrik5$10,750,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Laine, Patrik$10,750,000
2020 1st round pick
2021 1st round pick
2022 1st round pick
2023 1st round pick
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Gustafsson, Erik
  2. Highmore, Matthew
Additional Details:
MTL gets a rental in EG
MTL gets a Prospect in a similar position post injury that Danault was at a similar age .
CHI
  1. Byron, Paul ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. Fonstad, Cole [Reserve List]
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
Additional Details:
a speedy 20 goal scorer good for 100+ hits and short handed goals at 2.4m for 4 years
2.
MTL
  1. Ranta, Sampo [Reserve List]
  2. 2020 1st round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
1st round pick is top 10 protected.
COL
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (MTL)
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (MTL)
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Paul Byron: $1,000,000 (29.41%)
  • Marco Scandella: $2,000,000 (50%)
  • Brett Kulak: $925,000 (50%)
  • Ben Chiarot: $1,750,000 (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: $350,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
  • Matthew Peca: $225,000 ($1,300,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$80,357,143$0$3,350,000$1,142,857
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
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Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
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Domi, Max
$3,150,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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Poehling, Ryan
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
Laine, Patrik
$10,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 4
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Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Hudon, Charles
$800,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Thompson, Nate
$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Cousins, Nick
$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Gustafsson, Erik
$1,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
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Price, Carey
$10,500,000
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NMC
UFA - 7
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Chiarot, Ben
$1,750,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
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Kinkaid, Keith
$1,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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Kulak, Brett
$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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Folin, Christian
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Reilly, Mike
$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Sep. 1, 2019 at 10:54 p.m.
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Lol you'd need more for Gus, no way that cuts it.
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Sep. 1, 2019 at 10:59 p.m.
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ok im just gonna say it

laine is bad
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Sep. 1, 2019 at 11:24 p.m.
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Quoting: JayBeagleFanAccount
ok im just gonna say it

laine is bad


Yeah cause 110 goals in your first three seasons is bad. Lmaoooo. People don’t even know what their talking about when there saying laine is bad. His in depth possession numbers while not fantastic, he had better numbers then people think.
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Sep. 1, 2019 at 11:27 p.m.
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Yeah cause 110 goals in your first three seasons is bad. Lmaoooo. People don’t even know what their talking about when there saying laine is bad. His in depth possession numbers while not fantastic, he had better numbers then people think.


hes pretty bad outside of his shot. His terrible play everywhere else cancels out his goal scoring ability.
Sep. 1, 2019 at 11:36 p.m.
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So Jets fans are nonsensical cause they think Laine has value but then you think the Avs are giving a 1st for Lehkonen and a couple picks?
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Sep. 1, 2019 at 11:39 p.m.
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Quoting: JayBeagleFanAccount
hes pretty bad outside of his shot. His terrible play everywhere else cancels out his goal scoring ability.


So ovechkin is bad too, if i follow your logic. Ovechkin doesn’t create takeaways, doesnt have great possession metric, score 20-25 goal a year on powerplay. Does giveaways the puck a lot. I means its the same thing here and no one will say ovi is bot good. The only thing that affect laine game is winnipeg hasn’t gave him a true opportunity with a real number one center
Sep. 1, 2019 at 11:50 p.m.
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Quoting: JayBeagleFanAccount
ok im just gonna say it

laine is bad


Haha, So why are 25% of the posts on this site about trading for Laine? And massive packages at that!
Sep. 1, 2019 at 11:50 p.m.
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So ovechkin is bad too, if i follow your logic. Ovechkin doesn’t create takeaways, doesnt have great possession metric, score 20-25 goal a year on powerplay. Does giveaways the puck a lot. I means its the same thing here and no one will say ovi is bot good. The only thing that affect laine game is winnipeg hasn’t gave him a true opportunity with a real number one center


youre joking right? Ovi and Laine are not even close to be comparable.
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Sep. 1, 2019 at 11:51 p.m.
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Haha, So why are 25% of the posts on this site about trading for Laine? And massive packages at that!


You're implying that people on this website are smart lol
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Sep. 1, 2019 at 11:55 p.m.
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Dude, How many Habs fans does it take to change a light bulb?
11. One to actually change the light bulb and 10 to talk incessantly about how great the old one was!
You are not getting laine, deal with it.


Habs fans don't change light bulbs because they have invested in Led technology. They don't use candles anymore. LMAO.

According to Laine offer sheet , I wouldn't do it. Laine cannot carry a team on his shoulder. He is good and will be better but do you trade Poehling, Caufield, Kotkaniemi and let's say Sergachev for Laine. No way. We are not talking about basketball here.
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Sep. 1, 2019 at 11:59 p.m.
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Quoting: JayBeagleFanAccount
youre joking right? Ovi and Laine are not even close to be comparable.


They are quite comparable you means. The only thing ovechkin do than laine didn’t is hitting. Other wise ovechkin is there for one thing like laine and it’s to score goal. Before barry trotz ovechkin haven’t heard of backchecking. He always pinch is way into offence without any regard of the defensive game. Laine is similar and will fill the net at the same rate if winnipeg decided to play him with scheiffle or find him a true center to olay with him
Sep. 2, 2019 at 12:05 a.m.
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Quoting: Sebybbq
They are quite comparable you means. The only thing ovechkin do than laine didn’t is hitting. Other wise ovechkin is there for one thing like laine and it’s to score goal. Before barry trotz ovechkin haven’t heard of backchecking. He always pinch is way into offence without any regard of the defensive game. Laine is similar and will fill the net at the same rate if winnipeg decided to play him with scheiffle or find him a true center to olay with him


He doesnt play with Scheifele because he would drag him down. Ovi can still drive play and does ok in possession unlike Laine who is below replacement in almost every aspect of the game.
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Sep. 2, 2019 at 12:52 a.m.
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Quoting: JayBeagleFanAccount
You're implying that people on this website are smart lol


W
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Sep. 2, 2019 at 1:07 a.m.
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On behalf of the rational habs fans, Id like to apologise to the 29 other fan bases (**** boston). We're not all like this i swear
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Sep. 2, 2019 at 1:30 a.m.
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If you want Gus, it starts with your 2020 1st round pick or Tartar
Sep. 2, 2019 at 1:35 a.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
So Jets fans are nonsensical cause they think Laine has value but then you think the Avs are giving a 1st for Lehkonen and a couple picks?


This is the same guy who argued with me that I generalized MTL fans in a comment, and now he did the same thing. ?. Wouldn't take this guy seriously (like you shouldn’t on Cf anyway but this guy especially)
Sep. 2, 2019 at 1:39 a.m.
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He doesnt play with Scheifele because he would drag him down. Ovi can still drive play and does ok in possession unlike Laine who is below replacement in almost every aspect of the game.


He doesn’t play with scheifele because wheeler does. Simple as that. Before the wheeler-scheifele duo was a thing in laine’s first season, he did play with scheifele (and played well as a matter of fact. You don’t split one of the best duo’s in the league to get 1 player a c who he has chemistry with (especially if that player produces regardless - albeit at a reduced rate)

If u don’t know what ur talking about don’t talk.

I think laine will finally have his C If copp proves his chemistry with Laine and steals he 2c spot.
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Sep. 2, 2019 at 3:06 a.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
If you want Gus, it starts with your 2020 1st round pick or Tartar


Lol good joke
Sep. 2, 2019 at 6:57 a.m.
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Lol good joke


Well that package isn't getting Gus so the joke is on MTL here
Sep. 2, 2019 at 8:35 a.m.
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Well that package isn't getting Gus so the joke is on MTL here


for a rental we are not re-signing as stated above

you're high right ?
when's the last time a Gustafsson got a F'n Tatar and a 1st ?
Sep. 2, 2019 at 9:00 a.m.
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Edited Sep. 2, 2019 at 9:07 a.m.
Quoting: MisstheWhalers
So Jets fans are nonsensical cause they think Laine has value but then you think the Avs are giving a 1st for Lehkonen and a couple picks?


i'll explain things slowly

Laine is worth two 1st , 2nd and 3rd. Anyone who thinks he's worth four 1st's doesnt even awknowledge their team's contradicting that unwilling to pay him the 10 million he asked for. They say something in 1 breathe and contradict that very statement in the next breathe .

MTL's 2nd is likely going to be a Mid pick 15th-20th so their 2nd round pick is going to be 30th-40th
COL who's Clearly a playoff team is looking at a 25th-31st overall pick most likely
MTL is trading Lehkonen and a 3rd to move up 15 spots in the draft

Lehkonens a 23 year old who's coming off a career high and a great player for a COL team who was **** defensively last year despite all their overwhelmiing offense. Kerfoot was the stand out defensively and COL PK Unit becomes actually dangerous instead of 25th/31 teams and a joke

Sampo Ranta's a project player who is in the NCAA and like Butcher could walk for nothing when he's done . There's no chance in him making any NHL roster for 2-3 years as he's got a ways to go on his skating to be able to play in the NHL and in the end might never be good enough . is comparable to Jake Evans and his journey through NCAA
Sep. 2, 2019 at 11:37 a.m.
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On behalf of the rational habs fans, Id like to apologise to the 29 other fan bases (**** boston). We're not all like this i swear


ghost for shaw scene
Sep. 2, 2019 at 2:16 p.m.
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ghost for shaw scene


That was to piss off earlock scene
 
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