Dubois for Domi

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Created by: Billy739

Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 30, 2019

Published: Sep. 30, 2019

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Description

CBJ have Center depth issues so Getting a 70 Point player like Domi who did 46% win rate on a 1000 faceoffs his first year while also getting the top player in MTL Camp and Preseason in Production and Play in Nick Suzuki .

Both Nick and Domi could play Center in CBJ organization . Suzuki's averaged a 51-54% win rate in the faceoff circle thus far while Domi's improved slightly to 48-50% win rate. MTL has Poehling/Kotkanemi here now with Danault coming off a career year with a top 10 finish in both Faceoffs taken and Wins so our middle 6 is getting really crowded at Center with no one ready today to take on 1st Center . (Enter Dubois )

CBJ makes out like bandits as MTL overpay in order to get an undisputed top line Center to play infront of Kotkanemi and Poehling long term as a core we can still have together 5 years from now and they'll only be hitting their prime as 25-26 year olds .

Both teams win and CBJ are in a playoff position again because Domi's a battler and a wet dream for Coach john Torterella who's always had success with players with Domi's Skills ,Ethic and Character .

Trades

MTL

Dubois, Pierre-Luc
Nutivaara, Markus
2020 1st round pick (CBJ)

Additional Details:

CBJ gives up a legit top line Center prospect and a depth Player who's a solid 4th/5th D who can play both sides along with a 1st round pick in 2020 .

CBJ

Domi, Max
Suzuki, Nick
2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
2021 2nd round pick (MTL)

Additional Details:

-2021 2nd is conditional 1st if Domi doesnt re-sign with CBJ

MTL gives up a legit top line Winger coming off a successful first year as a Center . Suzuki a top Center/Winger prospect coming off a CHL leading Playoff year .

the two 2nd's have appeal after CBJ gave up their 2020 and 2021 second round picks along with their 3rd in 2020 . CBJ may be giving up their 1st in the deal to get better players for it . MTL makes the 2nd in 2021 Conditional 1st if Domi doesnt re-sign with CBJ.(example CBJ decides to trade his rights to TML because they made a really good offer CBJ still gets a 1st)

Buyouts

Steve Mason: $1,366,667

Buried

Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
Matthew Peca: $225,000 ($1,300,000)
Mike Reilly: $425,000 ($1,500,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$72,684,641	$0	$6,157,500	$8,815,359

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Dubois, Pierre-Luc $894,166$894,166 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Tatar, Tomas $4,800,000$4,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Danault, Phillip $3,083,333$3,083,333 C UFA - 2	Lehkonen, Artturi $2,400,000$2,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $2,600,000$2,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Cousins, Nick $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Poehling, Ryan $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) C, LW UFA - 2	Weal, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 2
	Thompson, Nate $1,000,000$1,000,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Mete, Victor $748,333$748,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 7	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 7
Nutivaara, Markus $2,700,000$2,700,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Petry, Jeff $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Kinkaid, Keith $1,750,000$1,750,000 G UFA - 1
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Fleury, Cale $771,666$771,666 ($132,500$132K) RD RFA - 2
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Folin, Christian $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1	Juulsen, Noah $863,333$863,333 ($175,000$175K) RD UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Drouin, J.		Dubois, P.		Gallagher, B.
	Mete, V.		Weber, S.

Power Play 2
Tatar, T.		Kotkaniemi, J.		Poehling, R.
	Nutivaara, M.		Petry, J.

Penalty Kill 1
	Tatar, T.	Danault, P.
	Nutivaara, M.	Petry, J.

Penalty Kill 2
	Cousins, N.	Poehling, R.
	Chiarot, B.	Fleury, C.

Sep. 30, 2019 at 10:42 p.m.

GMs

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Domi is RFA and will 99% sign

Sep. 30, 2019 at 10:45 p.m.

mvp13

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PLD is still considered a prospect...?

Dumb trade for the Habs

Sep. 30, 2019 at 10:46 p.m.

Jah1722

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I read the first line of you’re explanation and stopped. “CBJ has center depth issues” so they aren’t trading their #1 C still on an ELC.

I also went back and MTL makes out like bandits not CBJ. They get a young #1 C, quality D and a first for a good winger, a good prospect and 2 seconds. They know what Dubois is at the nhl level. Hoping on a prospect who is only a year younger than Dubois. That’s a pass.

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Sep. 30, 2019 at 10:55 p.m.

Bcarlo25

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Hard pass from CBJ

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Sep. 30, 2019 at 11:04 p.m.

GMs

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Quoting: Jah1722

You lose all credibility when you said Suzuki is a good prospect. Good ? Really ? wow

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Sep. 30, 2019 at 11:16 p.m.

Jah1722

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Quoting: GMs

You lose all credibility when you said Suzuki is a good prospect. Good ? Really ? wow

So he’s bad?

Sep. 30, 2019 at 11:16 p.m.

GMs

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Quoting: Jah1722

So he’s bad?

Great

Sep. 30, 2019 at 11:18 p.m.

Jah1722

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Quoting: GMs

Great

Good great same thing. You missed the point, he’s still a prospect and he’s only ONE year younger than PLD. PLD has shown he can be a number 1C on playoff team

Sep. 30, 2019 at 11:32 p.m.

CMac66

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Dubois is a 1c at 21 not a prospect. He's the whole package and has all the tools to be an elite Centre sooner than later. How can Columbus trade that plus a good young LHD and a 1st which could be pretty high! For domi who you'd rather play on wing, and Suzuki who doesn't project to be what Dubois is? It's not good. Sorry they're not trading PLD and if they were it would start with kotkaniemi

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Sep. 30, 2019 at 11:34 p.m.

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GMs

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Quoting: Jah1722

Good great same thing. You missed the point, he’s still a prospect and he’s only ONE year younger than PLD. PLD has shown he can be a number 1C on playoff team

In your opinion
PLD > Domi
Suzuki > Nutivaara

Right ?

Sep. 30, 2019 at 11:37 p.m.

#11

GMs

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Quoting: CMac66

Dubois is a 1c at 21. He's the whole package and has all the tools to be an elite Centre sooner than later. How can Columbus trade that plus a good young LHD and a 1st which could be pretty high! For domi who you'd rather play on wing, and Suzuki who doesn't project to be what Dubois is? It's not good. Sorry they're not trading PLD and if they were it would start with kotkaniemi

Start with Kotkaniemi ? Kotkaniemi played at 18 yo PLD was sent back in the minors at 18. Anyway MTL CBJ are only good trade partners for a LW vs LHD

Oct. 1, 2019 at 12:15 a.m.

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Jah1722

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Quoting: GMs

In your opinion
PLD > Domi
Suzuki > Nutivaara

Right ?

Yeah but PLD is the biggest piece in the trade by a bit based on age and position

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Oct. 1, 2019 at 12:15 a.m.

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Viqsi

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There is literally nothing the Habs have that would get us to trade Dubois. Period. Full stop.

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Oct. 1, 2019 at 12:43 a.m.

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jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

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Quoting: Jah1722

I read the first line of you’re explanation and stopped. “CBJ has center depth issues” so they aren’t trading their #1 C still on an ELC.

Obviously

Oct. 1, 2019 at 9:54 a.m.

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F50marco

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I'm just not seeing the point in making this trade. All players involved are good but it doesn't really address anything without styfiling others development etc.

Just looking at value alone and not team needs or what not, the reason Columbus wouldn't do this has more to do with that 1st. Considering they could very well be a lottery team this year, that's a huge loss if they end up sucking as much as I personally predict. As for MTL, why is Suzuki even being used here? We finally have some really good prospects and we're moving them out already?

I got an idea. How about we keep all our assets for a good 2-3 more years and continue to build through the draft. Yeah PLD is solid and Nutivaara would be nice too but we've already addressed the needs those guys are giving us. Where does Nutivaara even fit in? Adding PLD means Kotkaniemi will never get the development he needs. Not with Danault being the most trusted center and Poehling eventually pushing him from behind.

The value may be there but the reasoning behind it isn't.

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