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How the hell we gonna hit the cap floor next year

Created by: csick
Initial Creation Date: Oct 11, 2019
Published: Oct 11 at 12:49 pm
Team: 2020-21 Ottawa Senators
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Balcers, Rūdolfs2$2,000,000
Chlapik, Filip2$1,000,000
Jaros, Christian2$1,000,000
Veronneau, Max2$1,000,000
Daccord, Joey2$1,000,000
Brown, Connor3$3,000,000
Duclair, Anthony1$2,000,000
Buyouts
  • Dion Phaneuf: $1,354,167
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
OTT
SJS
OTT
CBJ
DAL
OTT
OTT
TBL
SJS
STL
OTT
2021
OTT
OTT
CBJ
SJS
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
2022
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$84,000,000$54,308,332$0$3,832,500$29,691,668
Left WingCenterRight Wing
OTT
Tkachuk, Brady
$925,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
OTT
White, Colin
$4,750,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
OTT
Balcers, Rūdolfs
$2,000,000
RW, LW
RFA
OTT
Abramov, Vitaly
$730,833
LW
RFA - 1
OTT
Anisimov, Artem
$4,550,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
OTT
Brown, Connor
$3,000,000
LW, RW
RFA
OTT
Duclair, Anthony
$2,000,000
LW, RW
RFA
OTT
Brown, Logan
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
OTT
Batherson, Drake
$736,666
C, RW
RFA - 1
OTT
Ryan, Bobby
$7,250,000
RW, LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
OTT
Chlapik, Filip
$1,000,000
C
RFA
OTT
Veronneau, Max
$1,000,000
RW
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
OTT
Chabot, Thomas
$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 8
OTT
Zaitsev, Nikita
$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
OTT
Nilsson, Anders
$2,600,000
G
UFA - 1
OTT
Wolanin, Christian
$900,000
LD
RFA - 1
OTT
Brännström, Erik
$863,333
LD
RFA - 2
OTT
Högberg, Marcus
$700,000
G
RFA - 1
OTT
Lajoie, Maxime
$710,000
LD
RFA - 1
OTT
Jaros, Christian
$1,000,000
RD
RFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
OTT
Gáborík, Marián
$4,875,000
RW
UFA - 1

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Oct 11 at 2:15
#26
csick
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Didn't I just read a comment by a Sens fan asking us to stop trading Jack Johnson and Erik Gudbranson to you guys?

Too bad Loui Eriksson and Patric Hornqvist have NTC's.


We would only be taking players with 2 years or less remaining before we have to sign everyone. And the incentive would have to be there to take them
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Oct 11 at 2:37
#27
OldNYIfan
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Quoting: csick
We would only be taking players with 2 years or less remaining before we have to sign everyone. And the incentive would have to be there to take them


I know just the guy for you, and he'll only cost you three or four of those luscious extra draft picks you have . . . local London, Ontario boy . . . very good RhD . . .
Oct 11 at 2:39
#28
csick
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I know just the guy for you, and he'll only cost you three or four of those luscious extra draft picks you have . . . local London, Ontario boy . . . very good RhD . . .


Who we talking about here?
Oct 11 at 2:44
#29
CD282
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All I know is I offered you Lucic, but no, you said you weren't interested. So you can dig yourself out of the mess yourself, don't ask me to help.

Humph.
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Oct 11 at 2:47
#30
csick
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Quoting: CD282
All I know is I offered you Lucic, but no, you said you weren't interested. So you can dig yourself out of the mess yourself, don't ask me to help.

Humph.


Lucic has too many years remaining. Backes (1 more year left after this), prospect and a 1st for Tierney id be down.
Oct 11 at 2:56
#31
Birtle34
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Toronto is full, Ottawa next logical choice for all these Ontario boys that want to go home is, pietreangelo a Ontario boy, instant cap floor, got his ring, perfect chance for home and overpayment in Ottawa, new owner make a splash
Oct 11 at 3:02
#32
csick
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Quoting: Birtle34
Toronto is full, Ottawa next logical choice for all these Ontario boys that want to go home is, pietreangelo a Ontario boy, instant cap floor, got his ring, perfect chance for home and overpayment in Ottawa, new owner make a splash


I dont think so. What I would do if im Ottawa is acquire another 2020 1st by taking a bad contract and trading Tierney (will have 5 top 40 pick)
Pull off two trades, one to get a young RHD (AKA someone on the level of a Pesce/Carlo or soon to be), and 2 a top 6 winger/centre depends if we get a centre or winger with our pick (someone like Ehlers or Tuch if we draft Byfield/Perfetti) or someone like Patrick/Necas if we draft Lafreniere/Raymond/Holtz. Im not talking about trading for those players more like a guy in the same situation and level as those or with that potential
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Oct 11 at 3:03
#33
OldNYIfan
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Quoting: csick
Who we talking about here?


You figure it out. Your premise is you need to reach the cap floor. Who would do that in one fell swoop, but would cost you several draft picks, and is a very good RhD from London, Ontario?
Oct 11 at 3:03
#34
csick
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
You figure it out. Your premise is you need to reach the cap floor. Who would do that in one fell swoop, but would cost you several draft picks, and is a very good RhD from London, Ontario?


From what team
Oct 11 at 3:04
#35
Birtle34
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Quoting: csick
I dont think so. What I would do if im Ottawa is acquire another 2020 1st by taking a bad contract and trading Tierney (will have 5 top 40 pick)
Pull off two trades, one to get a young RHD (AKA someone on the level of a Pesce/Carlo or soon to be), and 2 a top 6 winger/centre depends if we get a centre or winger with our pick (someone like Ehlers or Tuch if we draft Byfield/Perfetti) or someone like Patrick/Necas if we draft Lafreniere/Raymond/Holtz. Im not talking about trading for those players more like a guy in the same situation and level as those or with that potential


Well said, every good feed needs a curveball or two
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Oct 11 at 3:06
#36
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Quoting: csick
Lucic has too many years remaining. Backes (1 more year left after this), prospect and a 1st for Tierney id be down.


It's okay, we found a sucker to take his contract already. We're good.
Oct 11 at 3:06
#37
CD282
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Quoting: csick
From what team


LA?
Oct 11 at 3:07
#38
csick
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
You figure it out. Your premise is you need to reach the cap floor. Who would do that in one fell swoop, but would cost you several draft picks, and is a very good RhD from London, Ontario?


Yeah im down then force Matthew Tkachuk to request a trade to Ottawa
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Oct 11 at 3:08
#39
Bluejackets2000
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Brandon Dubinsky has a nice fat juicy one-year contract that the Jackets could sell if the price is right. How about a 7th for Dubi & a 3rd?
Oct 11 at 3:14
#40
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Quoting: Bluejackets2000
Brandon Dubinsky has a nice fat juicy one-year contract that the Jackets could sell if the price is right. How about a 7th for Dubi & a 3rd?


I dont think a 3rd is enough compensation to take anyone. There has to be a 2nd rounder at least for any cap dump that has a contract beyond this year
Oct 11 at 3:41
#41
TrueNorth
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Quoting: BCAPP
Why the hell would an insurance company do that?


It was a poor attempt at sarcasm as I feel the Sens are abusing the system this season.

Quoting: mondo
This would be blatant cap circumvention.


As is this season with far less than the cap floor actually in the lineup.
Oct 11 at 5:09
#42
mondo
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Quoting: TrueNorth
It was a poor attempt at sarcasm as I feel the Sens are abusing the system this season.



As is this season with far less than the cap floor actually in the lineup.


I for one fail to see how it is cap circumvention when your Injured Reserve cap hit is higher than your Defense cap hit.
Oct 11 at 6:56
#43
athrin
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i think OTT will re-sign Brown, Duclair and DeMelo, most likely Pageau or Tierny.

Brown and Duclair have been playing well so far and DeMelo is OTT best RD right now.
 
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