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TBL CHI trades w CBO

Created by: PrimeDatsyuk
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 14, 2020
Published: May 14, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
fair trades? I saw these similar ideas on two different AGM's but wanted to merge them together.

Alex gets to play with Willy and Auston to see if he can finally get his game going.

Cernak solves the RHD problem and leafs take Gourdes contract but use their CBO on it.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,850,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
4$2,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
1$700,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Cernak, Erik [RFA Rights]
  2. Gourde, Yanni
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (PHI)
TBL
  1. 2020 7th round pick (STL)
2.
TOR
    CBO
    3.
    TOR
    1. Nylander, Alexander
    2. 2020 2nd round pick (PIT)
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
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    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the WPG
    2021
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    2022
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$81,326,449$0$1,250,000$173,551
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $10,903,000$10,903,000
    RW
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $11,640,250$11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $6,962,366$6,962,366
    RW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,850,000$1,850,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, C, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $3,200,000$3,200,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $925,000$925,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    $700,000$700,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $700,000$700,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,625,000$5,625,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,650,000$1,650,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $894,167$894,167
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
    RD
    RFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $725,000$725,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $700,000$700,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $925,000$925,000
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    May 14, 2020 at 7:43 p.m.
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    Dubas isnt a genius
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    As a fellow leafs fan you should delete this before the scary ass Chicago fans come...
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    May 14, 2020 at 7:45 p.m.
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    Chicago laughs and hangs up instantly
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    May 14, 2020 at 7:47 p.m.
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    @ChiHawk @SociallyHawkward
    would you do this deal?
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    May 14, 2020 at 7:52 p.m.
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    lol, Nylander might not even be better than Engvall
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    May 14, 2020 at 8:08 p.m.
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    Hop on the Slaftrain
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    Quoting: Gabriel11
    Chicago laughs and hangs up instantly


    lol how. Bowman would jump on that deal imo
    May 14, 2020 at 8:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: SevenLeg
    lol how. Bowman would jump on that deal imo


    Chicago fans really like Nylander. I don't think its that bad but I highly think they say no
    May 14, 2020 at 8:14 p.m.
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    Edited May 14, 2020 at 8:37 p.m.
    Quoting: keep_ups12
    @ChiHawk @SociallyHawkward
    would you do this deal?


    Nope, we don't need Dermott for the 900th time. He is dead weight in a defense that has a logjam. We sure as **** aren't trading Nylander for Johnsson. Engvall isn't needed as we have plenty of bottom 6 guys and he really isn't a huge upgrade over what we have although I do like him.

    Why not moving Kap for Nylander plus something? Alternatively, Nylander for Johnsson + Engvall? I just don't know who those two replace.
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    May 14, 2020 at 8:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: Gabriel11
    Chicago fans really like Nylander. I don't think its that bad but I highly think they say no


    CHI fan here. I'm not the biggest nylander fan, but I'll admit that I was very impressed with Joki so... anyway. I don't think it'll happen because Stan would likely get fired. He just traded for him and gave up a lot. technically he was a rookie last year so I think they'll give him another year at least. His extension shouldn't be that much money anyway. He was effective in a bottom 6 role. As for the value. It's not bad value at all. The Hawks can't really take Dermott due to their log jam at defense.
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    May 14, 2020 at 8:47 p.m.
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    Cernak at 2.25 a year?? TB has him sign that contract immediately, buys out Gourde and signs Cirelli. Makes a side deal for Detroit, Yzerman's new team, to take Johnson on waivers and signs Sergachev...
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    May 14, 2020 at 9:41 p.m.
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    If CBO's happen this year it's a get out of jail free card for Tampa. There would be no reason to give up Cernak so cheap.
    May 14, 2020 at 10:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    Nope, we don't need Dermott for the 900th time. He is dead weight in a defense that has a logjam. We sure as **** aren't trading Nylander for Johnsson. Engvall isn't needed as we have plenty of bottom 6 guys and he really isn't a huge upgrade over what we have although I do like him.

    Why not moving Kap for Nylander plus something? Alternatively, Nylander for Johnsson + Engvall? I just don't know who those two replace.


    You’d be insane to acquire Johnsson for Nylander. I understand how you might want Kap, but not Johnsson.

    Also, that trade would force me to commit seppuku if it would happen. Obvious no.
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    May 14, 2020 at 11:27 p.m.
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    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    You’d be insane to acquire Johnsson for Nylander. I understand how you might want Kap, but not Johnsson.

    Also, that trade would force me to commit seppuku if it would happen. Obvious no.


    Johnsson and Engvall is a bit more interesting. I've bee very clear I would never take Johnsson for Nylander on here in multiple Leaf proposals...no way. Adding Engvall makes it a bit more interesting though.
    May 15, 2020 at 4:11 a.m.
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    Quoting: keep_ups12
    @ChiHawk @SociallyHawkward
    would you do this deal?


    I rather swap out dermott for a pick but I wouldn't hate this deal. I'm not big on nylander. Johnsson scares me because we already have a bunch of injury prone players on the team. I wouldn't decline the deal but I would call around to other GMs before accepting it
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    May 15, 2020 at 8:42 a.m.
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    Quoting: keep_ups12
    @ChiHawk @SociallyHawkward
    would you do this deal?


    answer is no
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    May 15, 2020 at 3:41 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rangsey
    If CBO's happen this year it's a get out of jail free card for Tampa. There would be no reason to give up Cernak so cheap.


    how so? who do you think they would CBO if they do happen?
    May 15, 2020 at 3:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: Gabriel11
    Chicago laughs and hangs up instantly


    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    lol, Nylander might not even be better than Engvall


    Quoting: SevenLeg
    lol how. Bowman would jump on that deal imo


    Quoting: Gabriel11
    Chicago fans really like Nylander. I don't think its that bad but I highly think they say no


    So is it a fair trade or is it not?? If not that's ok, just an idea I saw that I tried with my own twist on it.
    May 15, 2020 at 4:32 p.m.
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    Quoting: PrimeDatsyuk
    how so? who do you think they would CBO if they do happen?


    CBO gourde, trade Killorn for a better return keep Cernak, Cirelli and Sergachev.
    Or cbo Gourde and trade cernak for a better return than this and keep Killorn.
    May 15, 2020 at 4:43 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rangsey
    CBO gourde, trade Killorn for a better return keep Cernak, Cirelli and Sergachev.
    Or cbo Gourde and trade cernak for a better return than this and keep Killorn.


    Killorn has a NTC, so it's very unlikely he will be traded. keeping Cernak, Cirelli and Sergachev with a flat cap will be almost impossible, especially with Johnson, McDonagh, Killorn and Palat still on the team, all with NTC's.
    May 16, 2020 at 10:29 a.m.
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    Quoting: PrimeDatsyuk
    Killorn has a NTC, so it's very unlikely he will be traded. keeping Cernak, Cirelli and Sergachev with a flat cap will be almost impossible, especially with Johnson, McDonagh, Killorn and Palat still on the team, all with NTC's.


    Killorn has a Modified NTC. Has to name 10 teams. Not ideal but would still net a better return than throwing away Cernak for nothing.
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