If MB leaves, I'd try to get a guy like cirelli if I were Lou

So, I might be wrong but I think the draft would come before Offer sheets no? Then in this case the Isles would get 1st round picks starting 2021.

Are you straight face serious with the 12M evaluation? Common, you truly believe he's MacDavid money? After the covid implications too? I personally think 10M/yr is way too much. He had 62 pts last season, 60 pts in 68 games this season.

Also, wait, what is going on with Aho here? Im lost. He's already signed ....

The point is that is what it would take for the islanders to consider taking the picks and not matching.

There are currently two Sebastian Ahos in the NHL..

If we lost Barzal, pivot to Eichel right away lol. We'd have the draft capital

Lol really? whoops my bad. Ok on this new Aho. Thanks.

I get what you're saying @Isles777 , but don't you think paying Barzal, say 11M is too much? Imagine him being on the Isles next year and getting 11M. I dont know, I think that's too much.

I agree he’s worth 9.5-10 on a long term deal right now. If he was OS for 11 x 7, isles would probably still match even if it is an overpay. The owners are building a new arena that will be finished in less than a year, can’t let the face of the franchise walk unless the OS is a huge overpay, like 12 x 7.

I agree.
After JT left I dont think NYI can afford to let Barzel walk.
Unfortunately with 30 opposing teams in the NHL, theres always at least one or two teams desperate enough (with cap space) to OS

Wait that’s facts

True , but the those teams will likely OS barzal In the 9.5-10 mill range, and isles match immediately

Even at 10-12m on a 7 year deal the isles have to consider taking the picks. My thought is that the Habs May try the same contract as Aho knowing you have pulock to sign.

Holy hell, didn't realize the Isles cap situation was this bad...... what if Komarov comes back early???

Im not even sure the Isles could match a 9-10M OS for Barzal......

Your second comment explains why you would make your first one - you're uninformed.

He's not saying Barzal is worth it - he's saying at that price the isles don't match. Even something lower they may still not consider- for the sake of discussion he went with 12mill.

There are two Sebastian Aho's in the league.

It's tough. I think the hope is Ladd/Komarov go to LTIR (proposed by the isles beat writer on The Athletic).

I think it's well known at this point amongst the fans that a guy like Leddy is gonna get shipped out; as he has valuable performance and would give them cap relief.

Read above bud. Isles should let him walk if he signs above 10M/yr, not 12

I read above. You're still wrong.

Isles should only let him walk if he signs something at/over $10,568,589.

Ok. In that case I hope he sings 8x10M and you guys are overpaying a 70pt/season player for 4 years until the salary cap catches up.
Good luck

Yeah I agree, an 8x10 would be awesome. Ladd & komarov on LTIR covers that right there. Thanks!

BTW you can research a bit better by just checking out NHL.com, they post good beginner articles

Isles can trade Leddy and buyout cal clutterbuck if barzal got an offersheet for 10 mill. They would have to trade pulock, which would be fine considering Dobson will be the #1 RD sooner than later

Using only points to evaluate a player is a flawed argument. Barzal is the best transition player in the NHL , his puck skills/skating are without a doubt top 10 for centers.

If he were in a more offensive minded system he would have 85+ points, just like he did in his rookie year

At 12 , you have to consider taking the picks, but no one is offering barzal 12 million. IF he even gets an OS (which is unlikely) it will be a slight bump from Aho (9-9.5 x 5) which the isles would easily match

If it’s anything in the range of 4 first round picks I think you have to consider it. Now that will drop into a range where I think the isles don’t mind the aav if it is a 7 year which bumps up the compensation to 4 1sts.

I could see the Habs throwing out the 2 1sts a 2nd and 3rd sheet again on a 5 year deal. Think the isles match that the same day.

Stop please.

The thing about offer sheets is that they tend to be horrific overpay.

Is Barzal worth a 12 million cap hit?

If an OS came in they would probably move leddy for peanuts if they couldn’t unload boychuk in a hurry.

The other thing to remember is that teams have the cushion in off season.

Isles can run the cap to 89.65m and if necessary use off season ltir on komorav for a total of 92.65m. This gives them the time needed to get their cap under control and move contracts.