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Boychuk

Created by: Isles777
Team: 2020-21 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 28, 2020
Published: Jul. 28, 2020
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At this point in his career, boychuk would provide the most value in Bridgeport.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$6,000,000
4$4,250,000
3$7,350,000
2$725,000
2$725,000
Trades
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NYI
  1. 2021 7th round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Bolduc, Samuel
  2. Hickey, Thomas
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (NYI)
2.
NYI
  1. 2021 7th round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Leddy, Nick ($500,000 retained)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,333,333$0$1,175,000$166,667
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
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UFA - 6
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C, RW
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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C, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 3
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$786,666$786,666 (Performance Bonus$100,000$100K)
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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C
NTC
UFA - 6
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RW, LW, C
UFA - 4
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$700,000$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$3,350,000$3,350,000
C
UFA - 1
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C, RW
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LD
UFA - 1
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RD
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$725,000$725,000
LD
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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C
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Jul. 28, 2020 at 6:20 p.m.
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Islanders wouldn't need to retain on a Leddy trade. The Kings have $20M in cap space and aren't going to be signing any big contracts before 2022.
Jul. 28, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.
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There had to be a team that would give more than a 2nd for Led pipe
Jul. 28, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.
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You might need that 500k if someone wants to try a fast one on Barzal/Pulock.
Jul. 28, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Islanders wouldn't need to retain on a Leddy trade. The Kings have $20M in cap space and aren't going to be signing any big contracts before 2022.


I’m doing it to show the isles can still fit their 3 RFA, it’s not that extreme to retain 500 k, although I agree the isles won’t have to retain any salary.
Jul. 28, 2020 at 6:27 p.m.
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Detroit doesn't want a #7/ AHL d-man with 2 years @2.5M left on his contract and would certainly cost more than essential 2x 3rd round picks.
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Jul. 28, 2020 at 6:28 p.m.
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Quoting: BStinson
You might need that 500k if someone wants to try a fast one on Barzal/Pulock.


I honestly don’t think pulock would sign an offersheet. He grew up an isles fan , him and Trotz are from the same town. I feel like isles would have to lowball him for him to even consider an offersheet.

With barzal anything can happen, I don’t see an offersheet coming and I think lou will look to get him signed before than.
Jul. 28, 2020 at 6:29 p.m.
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Quoting: dca919
Detroit doesn't want a #7/ AHL d-man with 2 years @2.5M left on his contract and would certainly cost more than essential 2x 3rd round picks.


Bolduc is a great prospect, he’s worth more than a 3rd
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Jul. 28, 2020 at 6:30 p.m.
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Quoting: dca919
Detroit doesn't want a #7/ AHL d-man with 2 years @2.5M left on his contract and would certainly cost more than essential 2x 3rd round picks.


Bolduc was isles 2nd round pick last year and was good, this trade is approved faster then you can say Lou. I'm a wings fan not isles btw
Jul. 28, 2020 at 6:31 p.m.
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I know its nitpicking but can't even sign players to 700K deals anymore. Its 725K or 750K I think. Considering we're pinching every penny here, those 25-50K will make a difference when you only have 185K left over in cap.
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Jul. 28, 2020 at 6:32 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
I know its nitpicking but can't even sign players to 700K deals anymore. Its 725K or 750K I think. Considering we're pinching every penny here, those 25-50K will make a difference when you only have 185K left over in cap.


Wouldn’t capfriendly prevent me from signing the contracts for 700k if that were the case?
Jul. 28, 2020 at 6:33 p.m.
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Wouldn’t capfriendly prevent me from signing the contracts for 700k if that were the case?


I don't think they've updated it yet.

https://www.google.com/search?q=20-21+minimum+salary+NHL&oq=20-21+minimum+salary+NHL&aqs=chrome..69i57.6674j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Jul. 28, 2020 at 6:38 p.m.
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The leafs signed kivilhalme to a 2 year 725 k AAV a few weeks ago, so I guess that’s the minimum now even though it increases in 21-22
Jul. 28, 2020 at 6:42 p.m.
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Quoting: dca919
Detroit doesn't want a #7/ AHL d-man with 2 years @2.5M left on his contract and would certainly cost more than essential 2x 3rd round picks.


Hickey would be DET's 3rd best Dman so there's that and Bolduc isn't incredible but a decent prospect.
Jul. 28, 2020 at 6:50 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
I know its nitpicking but can't even sign players to 700K deals anymore. Its 725K or 750K I think. Considering we're pinching every penny here, those 25-50K will make a difference when you only have 185K left over in cap.


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Wouldn’t capfriendly prevent me from signing the contracts for 700k if that were the case?


It's $700K for one more season. And believe CF hasn't updated it; they probably go season-by-season

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Jul. 28, 2020 at 6:50 p.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Hickey would be DET's 3rd best Dman so there's that and Bolduc isn't incredible but a decent prospect.


I see bolduc as a #4 Dman PP2 QB. Seems like a high floor prospect
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Jul. 28, 2020 at 7:08 p.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Hickey would be DET's 3rd best Dman so there's that and Bolduc isn't incredible but a decent prospect.
On the team next year and much better than Hickey:
Danny DeKeyser, Filip Hronek, Moritz Seider, Patrik Nemeth, Gustav Lindstrom, and arguably Alex Biega, and Dennis Cholowski.

Prospects in Detroit's system that were drafted before Bolduc's position:
Jared McIsaac (36th), Antti Tuomisto (35th), and probably Drysdale (4th) in this year's the draft.

Prospects equal to Bolduc in Detroit's system: Albert Johansson drafted 3 spots later. Kasper Kotkansalo drafted 4 spots later in a previous draft.

Detroit passes. Bolduc would be 7/8th d-man on Detroit if he turned out. Detroit will have had 4 picks in the 1st two rounds in each of the past 3 drafts and they used their 2nd round pick on a d-man (Lindstrom) in the draft before that.
Jul. 28, 2020 at 7:21 p.m.
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Quoting: buffbry
Bolduc was isles 2nd round pick last year and was good, this trade is approved faster then you can say Lou. I'm a wings fan not isles btw
Then you haven't been paying attention to the players on next year's roster: Danny DeKeyser, Filip Hronek, Moritz Seider, Patrik Nemeth, Gustav Lindstrom, and arguably Alex Biega, and Dennis Cholowski.

Or the prospects in Detroit's system that were drafted before Bolduc's position:
Jared McIsaac (36th), Antti Tuomisto (35th), and probably Drysdale (4th) in this year's the draft.

Or the prospects equal to Bolduc in Detroit's system: Albert Johansson drafted 3 spots later. Kasper Kotkansalo drafted 4 spots later in a previous draft.

Or the fact they have 4 picks in the 1st two rounds of the upcoming draft. All of which are better than taking on a 2.5M cap for the next two years for a #7/ AHL d-man and a prospect whose path would definitely be blocked.
Jul. 28, 2020 at 7:21 p.m.
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That Red Wings trade is horrible for NYI. Red Wings fans are declining? Clueless homers.
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Jul. 28, 2020 at 7:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Foreskin_Gump
That Red Wings trade is horrible for NYI. Red Wings fans are declining? Clueless homers.


I don’t even know if I’d do it, but i guess we might have to in order to afford the 3 RFA.

I chose bolduc instead of wilde because Dobson , pulock , toews, and pelech are all solid defensively. Wilde has boom or bust feel to him but if he can put it all together he can be A dynamic defenseman.
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Jul. 28, 2020 at 7:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
I don’t even know if I’d do it, but i guess we might have to in order to afford the 3 RFA.

I chose bolduc instead of wilde because Dobson , pulock , toews, and pelech are all solid defensively. Wilde has boom or bust feel to him but if he can put it all together he can be A dynamic defenseman.


Your trading a 7th defenseman worth only 2.5M Bolduc has top 4 potential. Throw in a 3rd and they can go back to being trash
Jul. 28, 2020 at 7:44 p.m.
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Boychucks contract isn't as bad as it seems. Yes it's a 6 million dollar cap hit....but for the next two years they only pay him 4 million a season. They just need to need to find a team that can take that 6 million dollar cap hit (Ottawa for example) and a team that wants a pretty reliable defensemen for 4 million a year for the next 2 years. There's worse defensemen making A LOT more. As for those trades, you're seriously under estimating the value of these guys to only be getting a 7th rounder for them especially the Detroit deal a third rounder and 2 players for a 7th rounder? seriously?
Jul. 28, 2020 at 7:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Foreskin_Gump
Your trading a 7th defenseman worth only 2.5M Bolduc has top 4 potential. Throw in a 3rd and they can go back to being trash

Then you're choosing the wrong team to trade with as Bolduc would not be in the top 5 of Detroit's team going forward.

All higher picks with higher upside: Filip Hronek (53rd overall) currently plays on the 1st pairing, Moritz Seider (6th overall), Gustav Lindstrom (38th & 2nd pairing currently), Dennis Cholowski (20th), Jared McIsaac (36th), Antti Tuomisto (35th), and probably Drysdale (4th) in this year's the draft.

Then there are prospects equal to Bolduc in Detroit's system: Albert Johansson drafted 3 spots later. Kasper Kotkansalo drafted 4 spots later in a previous draft.

I think you're being the Homer and valuing a 19 year old that hasn't even made it out of the Q yet way above his potential. Has he even played on a Hockey Canada team?
Jul. 28, 2020 at 8:06 p.m.
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Then you're choosing the wrong team to trade with as Bolduc would not be in the top 5 of Detroit's team going forward.

All higher picks with higher upside: Filip Hronek (53rd overall) currently plays on the 1st pairing, Moritz Seider (6th overall), Gustav Lindstrom (38th & 2nd pairing currently), Dennis Cholowski (20th), Jared McIsaac (36th), Antti Tuomisto (35th), and probably Drysdale (4th) in this year's the draft.

Then there are prospects equal to Bolduc in Detroit's system: Albert Johansson drafted 3 spots later. Kasper Kotkansalo drafted 4 spots later in a previous draft.

I think you're being the Homer and valuing a 19 year old that hasn't even made it out of the Q yet way above his potential. Has he even played on a Hockey Canada team?


Cholowski was below replacement level this season. Mic saad will probably be better than bolduc, tuomisto is not a better prospect than bolduc.

Bolduc was 8th among Dmen in points this season, has elite skating ability, which for his size is impressive. He’s also solid defensively and has a great slap shot. He signed a 3 year ELC and will be playing in the AHL next season.

It would make no sense to draft drysdale with hronek and Seider on the right side.
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Jul. 28, 2020 at 8:29 p.m.
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Cholowski was below replacement level this season. Mic saad will probably be better than bolduc, tuomisto is not a better prospect than bolduc.

Bolduc was 8th among Dmen in points this season, has elite skating ability, which for his size is impressive. He’s also solid defensively and has a great slap shot. He signed a 3 year ELC and will be playing in the AHL next season.

It would make no sense to draft drysdale with hronek and Seider on the right side.
Cholowski already has parts of 2 NHL seasons and was sent down to the AHL to refine the defensive side of his game--both of those leagues are much better than the Q. I'd trust him to turn out to be a top 5 d-man in the NHL more than a 19 yr old Q player. That's why he was picked much higher. He's also only 22.

Always draft the best player available not for exact fit---and even if they don't there still will be players equal to Bolduc's potential in Detroit's 2nd round picks. Plus someone's going to want Zetterberg's LTIR contract for a high pick. Even without Drysdale, by your own admission Bolduc would be only 5th among Detroit's young d-men/prospects and a 3rd pair guy....before counting Detroit's other prospects which you looked down on the same way I look down on Bolduc: the organizational fit for such a trade is not there. That should be the proof.

And that's before Detroit makes a run at a top UFA d-man like Torey Krug (say 5x 7.4M) or throws an offer sheet for a 2nd round cost at Vince Dunn (say 2x 3.5M) that St. Louis can't match or uses Tampa's cap issues to try to pry Mikhail Sergachev.
Jul. 28, 2020 at 8:56 p.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
It's $700K for one more season. And believe CF hasn't updated it; they probably go season-by-season

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Ahh perfect. That would explain it. Thought it was next year.
 
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