Werenski trade thoughts

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Created by: Yzerplan_forthewin

Team: 2019-20 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 16, 2020

Published: Aug. 16, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I have two trade starts tell me what I should swap or add.

Free Agent Signings

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
4th, Oa		1	$6,000,000

Trades

DET

Werenski, Zachary

CBJ

Zadina, Filip
2020 1st round pick (DET)

Additional Details:

This is just a start do you think it's to much or not enough. If not enough what should I add

DET

werenski

CBJ

4th, Oa
Cholowski, Dennis
McIsaac, Jared
Veleno, Joseph
2020 2nd round pick (DET)

Additional Details:

I know this isn't enough but what would you add

Buyouts

Stephen Weiss: $1,666,667
Xavier Ouellet: $216,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Mike Green: $2,687,500 (50%)

Buried

Trevor Daley: $2,091,666 ($3,166,666)
Kyle Brodziak: $75,000 ($1,150,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$81,500,000	$69,176,068	$145,000	$1,485,000	$12,323,932

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bertuzzi, Tyler $1,400,000$1,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C UFA - 4	Mantha, Anthony $3,300,000$3,300,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Fabbri, Robby $900,000$900,000 LW UFA - 1	Nielsen, Frans $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Perlini, Brendan $874,125$874,125 RW, LW UFA - 1
Erne, Adam $1,050,000$1,050,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Helm, Darren $3,850,000$3,850,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	Gagner, Sam $2,835,000$2,835,000 RW, C UFA - 1
	Filppula, Valtteri $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 2	Glendening, Luke $1,800,000$1,800,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 2
Timashov, Dmytro $694,444$694,444 ($70,000$70K) LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Werenski, Zachary $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Hronek, Filip $714,166$714,166 ($182,500$182K) RD RFA - 2	Bernier, Jonathan $3,000,000$3,000,000 G UFA - 2
DeKeyser, Danny $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD NTC UFA - 3	Seider, Moritz $925,000$925,000 RD RFA - 5	Howard, Jimmy $4,000,000$4,000,000 ($1,100,000$1M) G UFA - 1
Nemeth, Patrik $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD UFA - 2	Lindström, Gustav $775,833$775,833 ($132,500$132K) RD RFA - 2
Ericsson, Jonathan $4,250,000$4,250,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Bowey, Madison $1,000,000$1,000,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Abdelkader, Justin $4,250,000$4,250,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 4		Zetterberg, Henrik $6,083,333$6,083,333 C UFA - 2
Biega, Alex $825,000$825,000 RD UFA - 1		Franzen, Johan $3,954,545$3,954,545 RW, LW UFA - 1

Aug. 16, 2020 at 6:42 p.m.

KakkoForMauriceRichardAward

Brace for the Storm

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With Werenski (as with a lot of guys actually) it's not about the value, he's just so important to CBJ that I don't think they'd even consider moving him

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Aug. 16, 2020 at 6:43 p.m.

csick

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Value wise, he’s probably worth the 4th overall alone

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Aug. 16, 2020 at 6:44 p.m.

Yzerplan_forthewin

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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward

With Werenski (as with a lot of guys actually) it's not about the value, he's just so important to CBJ that I don't think they'd even consider moving him

I know they would never trade him its just a thought

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Aug. 16, 2020 at 6:47 p.m.

justaBoss

What in tarnation

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Imo Zadina+4th overall for Werenski is a loss for DET in terms of value, but CBJ would still likely decline it because players like Werenski just won't get moved.

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Aug. 16, 2020 at 6:49 p.m.

Jfstompers

Pop Pop

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Just doesnt make sense for either team but I'd say 4th oa for werenski is close

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Aug. 16, 2020 at 7:01 p.m.

Seider53

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As a Detroit fan I can confidently say that neither team should do this. Or even consider it. Detroit sets their future back significantly for a player who is ready to win now, Columbus who is ready to win now trades a player that is a great fit, for future pieces that won't help them win now.
Werenski is a UFA in the 21/22 offseason. Columbus will have had some tricky choices by then, and hopefully Detroit will have a Shane Wright, that might be the perfect time for a homecoming.

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Aug. 16, 2020 at 7:11 p.m.

Yzerplan_forthewin

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Quoting: Seider53

Thats fair

Aug. 16, 2020 at 7:30 p.m.

Jacketsman61

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Quoting: Seider53

Werenski will never make it to free agency. The Jackets will sign him. Werenski is definitely worth more than 4OA. Unless a generational type player is there, Werenski is more valuable

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Aug. 16, 2020 at 7:58 p.m.

Jambo

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Werenski is one of those guys where even the value is "fair" theres still no reason to trade him.
A playoff team has no business trading away a top 15 defenseman who plays every situation and is on a steal of a contract. They would just need to replace him with exactly what he already is

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Aug. 16, 2020 at 8:06 p.m.

#10

pharrow

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just pick Dry at 4.

Aug. 16, 2020 at 8:34 p.m.

#11

Xqb15

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DET needs to accumulate talent not trade away what talent they have. Doesn’t make a lot of sense for either team.

Aug. 16, 2020 at 8:37 p.m.

#12

Ajp_18

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The only trade both teams could even consider is Werenski for Larkin. No, neither team is going to make this trade but Columbus only moves Werenski is we get an NHL ready top 6 center back and Detroit really shouldn’t be moving draft picks or players under 24.

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 7:01 a.m.

#13

Seider53

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Quoting: Jacketsman61

Werenski will never make it to free agency. The Jackets will sign him. Werenski is definitely worth more than 4OA. Unless a generational type player is there, Werenski is more valuable

Oh he is undoubtedly worth more than 4OA, but Detroit would be silly to offer more and damage their rebuild further, and Columbus would be silly to offer less.
If im Columbus I would be looking worriedly at the next couple of years signings and cap hits, this flat cap is bananas and I think you could argue that from a purely cap perspective Detroit is the healthiest team heading into this rough patch for the other 30 teams.

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