Red wings fans will say this isnt realistic

As a wings fan, the value is probably there, (within the ballpark), but I'm just not interested in trading him.

It's not realistic, no need for Tatar, we are rebuilding, it's a bunch of your young kids and picks or no deal sporto.. this is an easy pass for the 35th time. Not sure whose fan base is worse Habs or leafs right now

Not sure why this is so hard for Hab fans to understand. Detroit is rebuilding. They'd want high end young/future assets. They aren't gonna bother with the likes of Domi and Tatar

Garbage attempt, per usual with Habs fans

HAHAHAAHA.
There's 0 chance any GM in the league would give that much up fro Mantha, one of the biggest over payments I've even seen.

If you think the difference between Domi and Mantha is Tatar+2nd+Poehling you're delusional.

He was playing with Bertuzzi and Larkin... who the heck is going to help him with similar production in Montreal after trading out Domi and Tatar AND a middle six forward AND a 2nd rounder? lol

This is what happened lol.

Tatar could be flipped for a 1st and so could Domi so we’re talking 2x 1st (could be 10OV or 31OV), 2nd STL (~58OV), and Poehling. It would probably make more sense to include other teams to gauge Tatar/Domi’s value for me to really decide if it was worth it because if we’re talking 2 late round 2021 1st (Domi/Tatar) + plus that late second and Poehling I’d decline but if we’re talking mid or early first round picks (2020) then I’d bite.

I'd say Habs fans are worse hehe.

I get you don't want to trade him, but if the value is there, I don't see why you wouldn't even consider it. For exemple, Habs like KK, but if COL calls and offers Girard and Byram, it would be hard to refuse it.

In this case, Tatar was good on DET, Domi (0,67 pt/game) can be a 2-3C and he could find his confidence back, Poehling is a 1st round pick and you get a 2nd.

It's curious you use the rebuilding argument to tell me Tatar doesn't interest you, but you don't consider Domi, Poehling and the 2nd round pick player are younger than Mantha.

A 60 point winger, 50 point center, top 100 prospect and a top 50 pick is a garbage attempt for a guy who hasnt stayed healthy enough to get over 50 points in a season? Come on man

Why would we need/want Tatar back? Poehling is an average prospect, at best, and Domi does absolutely NOTHING to make this team younger, bigger, better, etc. Mantha is a better player than Domi in almost every way.

And a 2nd rounder? LOL....k

Detroit declines, We need LD help not more wingers. Domi isn't a C that we need if we want to go smurf we draft Marco Rossi instead.

I don't think that. I just think it would be a good trade anyway, even if MTL overpays.



What is the best duo between Bertuzzi-Larkin and Hall-Suzuki?

Idk if the Mantha trade is realistic or not but signing Hall under 8m isnt

Buddy I get that Detroit fans only think Mantha will be moved for a top pick and prospect but thinking that this is a crap offer is where you're wrong. The value clearly sides with Detroit in this trade, even if you dont think its what they would be looking for they would be able to flip Tatar and Domi for more picks and pieces then they could get for Mantha alone of that's what they wanted to do.

I agree. Personally, I wouldn't want Mantha on my team. The guy can't stay healthy and fights way too much to stay on the ice. Maybe you can teach him to control that, but it hasn't happened yet. I would just let the Wings keep him and have them hope they'll get out of this terrible funk that they are in. It's better for the NHL when Detroit is at least semi-relevant, and it sucks when nobody wants to go there anymore.

I mean value is there definitely but it's not what we'd want. I like domi but I think hes at his ceiling and I think mantha has more to bring still. So pile on the Metes and poehlings all you want the central piece coming to detroit has to be Suzuki or jk or atleast that 1st for them to want to move him

Domi is soft and worse then someone who is about to be one of the top power forwards in the league. Tatar I have no interest in again since we are rebuilding. Poehling is fine, would take him and the 2nd is enough. So essentially what we want and what we are being offered is completely different, this is why we are gettit mad everyday at these offers. We have been saying the same thing over and over what we want for our rebuild and that we do not want to trade mantha unless it's a massive overpay. Just because you think the value is there doesn't mean we want to trade this guy. Since we don't want to trade him you just overpay, so when I tell you what we want you will say no that's too much and the trade is dead. The fact is we aren't going to trade this guy and Habs fans can't figure it out and keep offering us the same things that is not what we want.

Poehling + mete + primeau + domi - 16th overall. If not, we keep mantha pretty simple

This is the first time a Detroit fan has mentioned needs in any of these Mantha comments. What if MTL and a team made a three way trade to get a LD in for Domi? Also MTL has a ton of LD prospects as well as players, a good LD prospect could be added to Detroit; Mete, Norlinder, Harris, Romanov, Struble etc.

I would trade Harris, who many habs writers have listed as their best D prospect, even ahead of Romanov.

I think a deal can be worked out if a DET fan was willing to negotiate, MTL is clearly ready to overpay they want to take these team to the next level while Price and Weber are still playing good hockey.

Correction, this is the first time in this thread. If you were to check the ~40 other ACGM (in the last 2 days) of Mantha to Montreal you’d see it clearly defined multiple times LD/C or high picks. I’ve mentioned it numerous times KK or Suzuki but Montreal fans hate that.

As a Wings Fan I can say you are correct this isn't realistic. But it has absolutely nothing to do value because DETROIT ISN'T TRADING MANTHA.

Fights way too much? lol he's been in like 3 fights his entire career. His injuries are complete flukes. No one who watches the Wings would consider Mantha injury prone.

Amen

There is no value in it at all for Detroit. "Flipping at the deadline" is what people with no clue say....when has that ever happened? Way too many variables (injuries, salary cap, contracts, etc) to make that a guarantee. That doesnt go into the decision making of a trade.

Detroit doesn't need a 3rd line center, winger, or middling prospect for their best forward. It's nonsense. Mantha will be kept long term or traded for equivalent talent on D. Simple as that.