Wishful thinking

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Quoting: buffbry

Not from the red wings, if you trade him elsewhere that is correct, if it's insisting on being the wings then avs pay for us to take him, not the other way around. We are not trading picks for these types of players at all during this rebuild. If you want the cap relief and it's to wings you pay. If it's to a playoff team you get your pick.

I doubt too many playoff teams will have the cap space but you may well be right on the Wings.

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Jan. 28, 2021 at 8:03 p.m.

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Danault would need to be extended immediately for this to work. Can't be going into next season with Tierney as 2C.

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Jan. 28, 2021 at 8:07 p.m.

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Danault would need to be extended immediately for this to work. Can't be going into next season with Tierney as 2C.

Yep there's space to do it, that was something I worked in hence the reason for the trying to 'dump' cap when I was doing the trades one by one. This was the 'put it all together' version. None of it is beyond Super Joe lol.

Jan. 28, 2021 at 8:07 p.m.

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Quoting: TJTwolf

Thanks for the kind comment, don't get them too often LMAO. Yeah giving up Foudy would suck as I agree with you, but got to give to get. I think Danault is an upgrade, though only small, over Kadri. Signing him as a UFA and keeping both him and Kadri would be tough on the cap situation, hence both teams get something from the deal but yes, it does depend on getting Danault signed so there'd need to be at least some indication of that.

Kindness ain't exactly rampant around here. Gotta be at least a bit if a glutton for punishment to post these things, lol.

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Jan. 28, 2021 at 8:09 p.m.

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Kindness ain't exactly rampant around here. Gotta be at least a bit if a glutton for punishment to post these things, lol.

Yeah skin of a Rhino required at times lol.

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Jan. 28, 2021 at 8:21 p.m.

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Quoting: TJTwolf

Absolutely agree on the panic button aspect (normally us saying that to you isn't it :P ), but there's no question there needs to be some work done in the #3C department.

Lol, funny it isn’t me this time.
Just wait until the avs lose....

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Jan. 28, 2021 at 8:34 p.m.

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sensibleguy do you think the Sens would be interested in a Graves for Tierney trade if the Avs decided he was surplus to requirements?

Graves has had a tough start to this season, and was a healthy scratch, but he is what he is, a stay at home guy good for low 2nd pair minutes. Not quite 2nd pair, but better than 3rd pair.

I think the Sens could use a 18-20 minute LD who can PK, just so they don't need to play Coburn, lol. Graves age is close to Tierney, it could be a good match for what the Sens need, IMO. Colorado got Graves for practically nothing, a very nice pickup.

@csick @Alfie11 @Claesson4Norris

that's all I could think of off the top of my head, lol

Tierney for Graves

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Jan. 28, 2021 at 8:35 p.m.

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@sensibleguy do you think the Sens would be interested in a Graves for Tierney trade if the Avs decided he was surplus to requirements?

Could only add three @ in the first reply

@TCMonkey @Borocop

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Jan. 28, 2021 at 8:42 p.m.

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id probably do a near 1 for 1

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Jan. 28, 2021 at 8:44 p.m.

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Quoting: sensibleguy

Graves has had a tough start to this season, and was a healthy scratch, but he is what he is, a stay at home guy good for low 2nd pair minutes. Not quite 2nd pair, but better than 3rd pair.

I think the Sens could use a 18-20 minute LD who can PK, just so they don't need to play Coburn, lol. Graves age is close to Tierney, it could be a good match for what the Sens need, IMO. Colorado got Graves for practically nothing, a very nice pickup.

csick Alfie11 Claesson4Norris

that's all I could think of off the top of my head, lol

Tierney for Graves

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From what I saw against Vancouver he's an upgrade over all their current D, albeit two games is a limited sample size. He was scratched for one but the Avs wanted to see what they'd got in Pateryn for one game I think and a lot will depend on their plans for Bo-By.

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From what I saw against Vancouver he's an upgrade over all their current D, albeit two games is a limited sample size.

he would fit nicely and we have the space to protect him

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Jan. 28, 2021 at 9:02 p.m.

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he would fit nicely and we have the space to protect him

This is a definite bonus, since the team only had two D worth protecting, imo.

Jan. 28, 2021 at 9:04 p.m.

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Quoting: sensibleguy

This is a definite bonus, since the team only had two D worth protecting, imo.

That many?

Sorry, couldn't resist. I actually like the idea of sending him somewhere he'd be protected as well as he deserves it.

Jan. 28, 2021 at 9:07 p.m.

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Quoting: sensibleguy

Graves has had a tough start to this season, and was a healthy scratch, but he is what he is, a stay at home guy good for low 2nd pair minutes. Not quite 2nd pair, but better than 3rd pair.

I think the Sens could use a 18-20 minute LD who can PK, just so they don't need to play Coburn, lol. Graves age is close to Tierney, it could be a good match for what the Sens need, IMO. Colorado got Graves for practically nothing, a very nice pickup.

that's all I could think of off the top of my head, lol

Tierney for Graves

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Don't hate it. Don't love it either. The Sens need to get better personel defensively, but they need a guy who can move the puck up ice besides Chabot. Wolanin is capable, but is too sheltered to really be effective (also hurt), and Reilly has puck moving talent but he's a total liability defensively.

Graves would be an improvement in the Coburn/Reilly spot, but I think he would struggle as well.

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Jan. 28, 2021 at 9:07 p.m.

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That many?

Sorry, couldn't resist. I actually like the idea of sending him somewhere he'd be protected as well as he deserves it.

I’m careful to say it this way, so the Wolanin haters will think it’s Zaitsev, and the Zaitsev haters will think it’s Wolanin, lol

Jan. 28, 2021 at 9:13 p.m.

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I’m careful to say it this way, so the Wolanin haters will think it’s Zaitsev, and the Zaitsev haters will think it’s Wolanin, lol

From what I saw Wolanin would be kept, he was the only one who appeared to have a clue what an ice rink was let alone anything else. I exaggerate but it really was that painful to watch!

Jan. 28, 2021 at 9:14 p.m.

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

It's hard to see anybody that wouldn't struggle in the Sens line up atm tbh. I feel for you. On the plus side Graves jumps up in the play pretty well and can move the puck somewhat as well, not a Girard or Makar obviously but he can.

Jan. 28, 2021 at 9:47 p.m.

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.....and that's Bellemare moved to IR as well.

Jan. 28, 2021 at 9:56 p.m.

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.....and that's Bellemare moved to IR as well.

So about that Graves for Tierney proposal...

Jan. 28, 2021 at 9:57 p.m.

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So about that Graves for Tierney proposal...

Even more good reason to pull the trigger if he's out long term.

Jan. 28, 2021 at 10:04 p.m.

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Even more good reason to pull the trigger if he's out long term.

Yup. Bottom six of this really still looks pretty good:

Nichushkin, Tierney, Donskoi
Jost, Compher, O'Connor

Cap gets a little complicated next year though when adding another contract.

Jan. 28, 2021 at 10:06 p.m.

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Yup. Bottom six of this really still looks pretty good:

Nichushkin, Tierney, Donskoi
Jost, Compher, O'Connor

Cap gets a little complicated next year though when adding another contract.

Compher/Donskoi likely go to Seattle I would think. so there's more actually coming off than if Graves got chosen.

Jan. 28, 2021 at 10:17 p.m.

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