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doughty to the leafs

Created by: tyler1919
Initial Creation Date: May 6, 2021
Published: May 6, 2021
Team: 2020-21 Los Angeles Kings
Trades
1.
LAK
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Engvall, Pierre
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Doughty, Drew ($2,000,000 retained)
2.
LAK
    now obviously, the leafs would have to make some moves in order for this to happen, but this would help out the kings a ton. they gain a 2nd round pick as well as losing a terrible contract, and it helps out the leafs by giving them a gritty hard working top 2 defenceman. what does everyone think?
    TOR
      Buyouts
      • Dion Phaneuf: $4,062,500
      Retained Salary Transactions
      • Drew Doughty: $2,000,000 (18.18%)
      • Jeff Carter: $2,636,363 (50%)
      Termination Fees
      • Mike Richards: $700,000
      • Ilya Kovalchuk: $6,250,000
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2021
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      2022
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      2023
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      27$81,500,000$68,803,754$0$3,582,500$12,696,246
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
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      Iafallo, Alex
      $2,425,000
      LW, C
      UFA - 1
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      Kopitar, Anze
      $10,000,000
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 4
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      Brown, Dustin
      $5,875,000
      RW, LW
      NTC
      UFA - 2
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      Kempe, Adrian
      $2,000,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 2
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      Athanasiou, Andreas
      $1,200,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
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      Wagner, Austin
      $1,133,333
      RW, LW
      RFA - 3
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      Lemieux, Brendan
      $1,550,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 2
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      Lizotte, Blake
      $925,000
      C
      RFA - 1
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      Moore, Trevor
      $775,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 1
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      Grundström, Carl
      $725,000
      LW
      RFA - 2
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      Byfield, Quinton
      $925,000
      C
      RFA - 4
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      Luff, Matt
      $700,000
      RW
      RFA - 1
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      Engvall, Pierre
      $1,250,000
      LW, C
      RFA - 2
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      Vilardi, Gabriel
      $894,167
      C
      RFA - 2
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      Kerfoot, Alexander
      $3,500,000
      LW, C
      UFA - 3
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      Andersson, Lias
      $894,166
      C, LW
      RFA - 1
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      Anderson-Dolan, Jaret
      $747,500
      C
      RFA - 2
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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      Määttä, Olli
      $3,333,225
      LD
      UFA - 2
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      Walker, Sean
      $2,650,000
      RD
      UFA - 4
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      Quick, Jonathan
      $5,800,000
      G
      UFA - 3
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      Anderson, Michael
      $925,000
      LD
      RFA - 2
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      Roy, Matt
      $700,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
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      Petersen, Cal
      $858,333
      G
      UFA - 2
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      Wolanin, Christian
      $900,000
      LD
      UFA - 1
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      Grosenick, Troy
      $700,000
      G
      UFA - 1
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      Björnfot, Tobias
      $894,167
      LD
      RFA - 3
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      MacDermid, Kurtis
      $875,000
      LD/RD, LW
      UFA - 2
      Taxi Squad
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      Madden, Tyler
      $925,000 ($0)
      C
      RFA - 3
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      Hults, Cole
      $925,000 ($0)
      LD
      RFA - 2
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      Villalta, Matt
      $778,333 ($0)
      G
      RFA - 2
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      Rymsha, Drake
      $733,333 ($0)
      C
      UFA - 1

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      May 6, 2021 at 12:42 p.m.
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      Hold on.
      So this helps the kings because they are getting assets for a bad contract
      But it helps the leafs because... they are getting a top 2 defenseman?
      A real top 2 defenseman should be worth 9.5 million or at least close to it
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      May 6, 2021 at 12:44 p.m.
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      I DONT DISLIKE IT
      May 6, 2021 at 12:47 p.m.
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      Leafs signed Brodie for 5 mil. If they can sign defensemen better and younger than doughty for half the price why would they give up anything for doughty? The kings are stuck with him.
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      May 6, 2021 at 12:49 p.m.
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      Teams are not going to retain on 6 year contracts. Owners are already getting crushed playing the last 2 seasons losing significant amounts of money, do you think an owner would sign off on eating another $12M?
      May 6, 2021 at 1:01 p.m.
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      No. Doesn’t fit right.

      And why would the Kings retain for 6 years?
      May 6, 2021 at 1:01 p.m.
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      Quoting: Xqb15a
      Teams are not going to retain on 6 year contracts. Owners are already getting crushed playing the last 2 seasons losing significant amounts of money, do you think an owner would sign off on eating another $12M?


      Putting the trade aside - yeah, I think there absolutely are scenarios where owners should/would do that if given the opportunity. They would still be saving money so long as they don't piss it away elsewhere. Just sign somebody cheaper to fill that role.
      May 6, 2021 at 1:03 p.m.
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      Quoting: ZachHymanForTheHart
      No. Doesn’t fit right.

      And why would the Kings retain for 6 years?


      well they could buy him out for the same price, this way they get a 2nd round pick
      May 6, 2021 at 1:11 p.m.
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      Where is this bad contract you say the Leafs are losing? They have none on their current roster.
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      May 6, 2021 at 1:12 p.m.
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      Doughty is worth every dollar of his contract. The Kings aren't trading him.
      May 6, 2021 at 1:19 p.m.
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      Well, the Leafs fans on here were proposing the Kings retain 1/2 of Doughty's contract last season, so I guess this is progress. Kings still decline.
      May 6, 2021 at 1:19 p.m.
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      Wow, I've seen plenty of Leaf's ACGM's that MASSIVELY overvalue any combination of Kerfoot, Engvall, or Dermott. But this about takes the cake. Absolutely terrible.
      May 6, 2021 at 1:31 p.m.
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      Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
      Putting the trade aside - yeah, I think there absolutely are scenarios where owners should/would do that if given the opportunity. They would still be saving money so long as they don't piss it away elsewhere. Just sign somebody cheaper to fill that role.


      That’s a good point, and I think that works with contracts with like 1-3 yrs remaining but willing taking a $2M cap hit right off of the top 4-6 years down the road? I dunno, that’s dead money.
      May 6, 2021 at 1:37 p.m.
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      Leafs certainly don't want Doughty and his never ending 9m contract (with retention). Lots of better ways to spend 9m.
      Beside Doughty has a NMC...He has retired to California.

      Try making a Leaf lineup with 9m Doughty. Leafs would have to reduce talent in other areas so the team would be worse.
      May 6, 2021 at 2:11 p.m.
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      Quoting: tkecanuck341
      Doughty is worth every dollar of his contract. The Kings aren't trading him.


      maybe if you are talking pesos
      May 6, 2021 at 2:16 p.m.
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      Absolutely hilarious proof of Poe's Theorem. And you even snookered a couple of my wonderful Kings colleagues!

      Bravo!
      May 6, 2021 at 3:05 p.m.
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      Quoting: tyler1919
      well they could buy him out for the same price, this way they get a 2nd round pick


      Buy out “a top 2 d man” ?
      May 7, 2021 at 10:17 a.m.
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      Quoting: TrueCanuck
      Where is this bad contract you say the Leafs are losing? They have none on their current roster.


      the leafs arent losing a bad contract- the kings are. which is why i think this trade makes sense
       
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