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2021 offseason talks thread

Jul. 4, 2021 at 4:48 p.m.
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The 4 front runners for Seth Jones according to rumors

Blackhawks, Kings, Flyers, Avalanche
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Jul. 4, 2021 at 5:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
The 4 front runners for Seth Jones according to rumors

Blackhawks, Kings, Flyers, Avalanche


The fylers (and maybe the avs) are the only ones that make sense to me.

Why would the hawks or kings want him? They're rebuilding.
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Jul. 4, 2021 at 5:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
The fylers (and maybe the avs) are the only ones that make sense to me.

Why would the hawks or kings want him? They're rebuilding.


Rumors are that the Hawks want both Jones brothers

I don't get why the Kings want him

Philly is my landing spot too
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Jul. 4, 2021 at 6:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
The 4 front runners for Seth Jones according to rumors

Blackhawks, Kings, Flyers, Avalanche



Blackhawks and Flyers were already heavily rumored so that's no surprise. Kings seem a bit random. The avs came out of nowhere too and they don't need him anyways. Does this mean they may be considering letting Makar go for a high compensation?
Jul. 4, 2021 at 6:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Dzinger18
Blackhawks and Flyers were already heavily rumored so that's no surprise. Kings seem a bit random. The avs came out of nowhere too and they don't need him anyways. Does this mean they may be considering letting Makar go for a high compensation?


The Avs are a bit weak on the right side so it wouldn't surprise me if they want Jones

Elliotte Freidman said the Avs are the only team that is interested in Jones without an extension

Peter Baugh (Avalanche reporter for the Athletic) said that the Avalanche would match any offer sheet for Makar)
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Jul. 4, 2021 at 6:21 p.m.
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The Avs are a bit weak on the right side so it wouldn't surprise me if they want Jones

Elliotte Freidman said the Avs are the only team that is interested in Jones without an extension

Peter Baugh (Avalanche reporter for the Athletic) said that the Avalanche would match any offer sheet for Makar)


Looks like they're in for a cap crunch, then. I can already envision that CBJ would want Newhook+ for rental Jones. Hopefully Colorado doesn't overpay though.

Also if they get Jones, Graves is definitely going somewhere whether it's Seattle or in a trade to another team.
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Jul. 4, 2021 at 6:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Dzinger18
Looks like they're in for a cap crunch, then. I can already envision that CBJ would want Newhook+ for rental Jones. Hopefully Colorado doesn't overpay though.


I think Philly or Blackhawks would make the best/most reasonable offers.

Blackhawks would offer Strome+
Phily would offer Patrick+
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Jul. 4, 2021 at 6:24 p.m.
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I think Philly or Blackhawks would make the best/most reasonable offers.

Blackhawks would offer Strome+
Phily would offer Patrick+


Yep. No matter what CBJ is going to want a younger center+ in a package for Jones.
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Jul. 4, 2021 at 9:26 p.m.
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The 4 front runners for Seth Jones according to rumors

Blackhawks, Kings, Flyers, Avalanche


Colorado huh?

makes no sense as unless they can get rid of Johnsons deal even at 50% Jones wont be an easy add
Jul. 4, 2021 at 9:29 p.m.
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I think Philly or Blackhawks would make the best/most reasonable offers.

Blackhawks would offer Strome+
Phily would offer Patrick+


Issue is Patrick is basically texier and his position with the CBJ has been coming into question. Columbus needs a ready now top 6 center. Nolan is more of a 3c candidate and maybe can push for top 6 in 3 years.

Now Chicago's Strome also could be problematic as he was pushed out of his spot by Pius Sutter and played mostly wing like RNH did in Edmonton.
Jul. 4, 2021 at 9:38 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Colorado huh?

makes no sense as unless they can get rid of Johnsons deal even at 50% Jones wont be an easy add


Im guessing he's a rental
Jul. 4, 2021 at 9:43 p.m.
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Issue is Patrick is basically texier and his position with the CBJ has been coming into question. Columbus needs a ready now top 6 center. Nolan is more of a 3c candidate and maybe can push for top 6 in 3 years.

Now Chicago's Strome also could be problematic as he was pushed out of his spot by Pius Sutter and played mostly wing like RNH did in Edmonton.


The way I see it is that Strome And Patrick could use a change of scenery and have a chance to breakout in Columbus.

Columbus won't be good next year and don't have any top 6 centers. Take a chance and put Patrick or Strome as 1C next to Bjorkstrand and Laine and see what happens
Jul. 4, 2021 at 9:45 p.m.
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Im guessing he's a rental


even as a rental he does not fit unless they move Johnsson

cause remember Makar + Landeskog + Grubaurs new deals are gonna eat a ton of their cap space especially Makar.

Even if all took discounts they would still not be able to easily afford him

just for reference

Landeskog will probs make 7-7.5mill
Makar 8-9mill
Grubaur 5-6mill

cause Colorado wont be comfortable running a 21 man roster given injuries seem to run rampant with that teams playstyle
Jul. 4, 2021 at 9:47 p.m.
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even as a rental he does not fit unless they move Johnsson

cause remember Makar + Landeskog + Grubaurs new deals are gonna eat a ton of their cap space especially Makar.

Even if all took discounts they would still not be able to easily afford him

just for reference

Landeskog will probs make 7-7.5mill
Makar 8-9mill
Grubaur 5-6mill


I agree. It doesn't make sense and it would cost too much to get Jones
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Jul. 5, 2021 at 8:22 a.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
The fylers (and maybe the avs) are the only ones that make sense to me.

Why would the hawks or kings want him? They're rebuilding.


Well the way they’re trying to make moves this summer, it doesn’t look like LA or Chicago want to be rebuilding for long.
Jul. 5, 2021 at 8:35 a.m.
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Sad news today
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Jul. 5, 2021 at 8:41 a.m.
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Sad news today


Yep, our thoughts and prayers are with his family, he died at a young age too
Jul. 5, 2021 at 9:10 a.m.
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Sad news today


What??? Wow that’s so sudden and unexpected!

RIP Matiss
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Jul. 5, 2021 at 8:04 p.m.
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1 year, 900k
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Jul. 5, 2021 at 11:17 p.m.
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What should Flames attempt to do this off-season? Who should they go for? Trade for? Trade away? Give me your opinions
Jul. 5, 2021 at 11:20 p.m.
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What should Flames attempt to do this off-season? Who should they go for? Trade for? Trade away? Give me your opinions


Trade away Monahan for either youth or a better 1C (maybe Kuznetsov but they could still shop elsewhere). I just think they should start edging their way towards a rebuild by getting younger and attempting to build around Tkachuk. They're offseason should be interesting to say the least.
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Jul. 5, 2021 at 11:22 p.m.
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Trade away Monahan for either youth or a better 1C (maybe Kuznetsov but they could still shop elsewhere). I just think they should start edging their way towards a rebuild by getting younger and attempting to build around Tkachuk. They're offseason will be interesting to say the least.


Like a retool?
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Jul. 5, 2021 at 11:24 p.m.
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Like a retool?


I called it a rebuild but I guess you could consider it more of a retool. They've just gotta shake things up a bit.
Jul. 5, 2021 at 11:25 p.m.
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I wonder if CBJ is getting an exception in the expansion draft due to Kivlenieks' passing as I don't think they can fill the exposure requirement rule in terms of goalies?

I dunno if NHL has a code of how to go through things during such hard time. Can't see them force CBJ to acquire a goalie, that's just wrong.
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Jul. 5, 2021 at 11:26 p.m.
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What should Flames attempt to do this off-season? Who should they go for? Trade for? Trade away? Give me your opinions


Just rebuild imo. Can't see true potential in that core, but you have solid assets to move and start building through youth.

They're slowly becoming the epitomy of mediocrity in this league. which is a shame since CGY is probably my favorite Canadian team.
 
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