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2021 offseason talks thread

Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:30 a.m.
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Can we vote to demote him from commissioner?


Bettman is still a good commissioner, we all hate some of the stuff he’s done but there’s no way he’ll please everyone on everything, being hated comes with the job
Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:35 a.m.
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Henrik Lundqvist has retired
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:35 a.m.
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Henrik Lundqvist has retired


He definitely should be a HOF
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:44 a.m.
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One of the greatest all time who has never won a cup. Good luck in your future King.
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:45 a.m.
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He definitely should be a HOF


Guaranteed lock.
Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:51 a.m.
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Henrik Lundqvist has retired


unsure

My favorite goalie of all time, and this will never change.

Thx for everything, King

Now, NYR, retire his number ASAP and NHLHOF, introduce him on the first oppourtunity
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:51 a.m.
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One of the greatest all time who has never won a cup. Good luck in your future King.


Put the #30 in the rafters of Madison Square Garden
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:54 a.m.
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Henrik Lundqvist is the only lock for the Hockey Hall of Fame class of 2023.
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:58 a.m.
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One of the greatest all time who has never won a cup. Good luck in your future King.


I like how he didn't even mentioned the Caps
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:58 a.m.
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First year eligible players for upcoming Hall of Fame classes:

2022
1. Henrik Sedin
2. Daniel Sedin
3. Henrik Zetterberg
4. Roberto Luongo
HM: Rick Nash

2023
1. Henrik Lundqvist
HM: Justin Williams, Corey Crawford

2024
1. Shea Weber
2. Zdeno Chara (If he retires before this upcoming season)
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:58 a.m.
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One of the greatest all time who has never won a cup. Good luck in your future King.


Forever an all time great. Should get in the HOF and have his number 30 retired by the Rangers. Easily one of my favorite goalies of all time. Sadly for him the Canes made his last game a loss. Good luck in your next chapter in life, Hank.
Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
First year eligible players for upcoming Hall of Fame classes:

2022
1. Henrik Sedin
2. Daniel Sedin
3. Henrik Zetterberg
4. Roberto Luongo
HM: Rick Nash

2023
1. Henrik Lundqvist
HM: Justin Williams, Corey Crawford

2024
1. Shea Weber
2. Zdeno Chara (If he retires before this upcoming season)


So when could you estimate Blake Comeau's first year of eligibility?
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
First year eligible players for upcoming Hall of Fame classes:

2022
1. Henrik Sedin
2. Daniel Sedin
3. Henrik Zetterberg
4. Roberto Luongo
HM: Rick Nash

2023
1. Henrik Lundqvist
HM: Justin Williams, Corey Crawford

2024
1. Shea Weber
2. Zdeno Chara (If he retires before this upcoming season)


Sweden go brrrrrrrr
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 10:00 a.m.
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So when could you estimate Blake Comeau's first year of eligibility?


When he retires. But he’s clearly the next Jaromir Jagr and will play until he’s 60.
Aug. 20, 2021 at 10:00 a.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
First year eligible players for upcoming Hall of Fame classes:

2022
1. Henrik Sedin
2. Daniel Sedin
3. Henrik Zetterberg
4. Roberto Luongo
HM: Rick Nash

2023
1. Henrik Lundqvist
HM: Justin Williams, Corey Crawford

2024
1. Shea Weber
2. Zdeno Chara (If he retires before this upcoming season)


1st of all, that 2022 class is STACKED
2nd of all, no chance Crawford gets in
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 10:03 a.m.
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So when could you estimate Blake Comeau's first year of eligibility?


Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
When he retires. But he’s clearly the next Jaromir Jagr and will play until he’s 60.


He'll be singing 1x1 contracts till the day he dies. He'll surpass Marleau's games played record and Howe's age record, but after that he should be a lock.
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 10:31 a.m.
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Henrik Lundqvist has retired


Capitals legend

Sad to see him end his career due to injuries

One of the best goalies to never win a cup
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 10:51 a.m.
#9718
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Nhl 21 Fransise mode
What is my biggest need?
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2713146
I kinda want to trade Hertl so he gets more time
Aug. 20, 2021 at 10:58 a.m.
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How good is this?

M.Tkachuk-Barzal-Rust
Toffoli-Hertl-Labanc
Jarnkrok-Stastny-Vatrano
Crouse-Glendening-Blais

Theodore-Weegar
Dillon-Sergachev
Kulak-Mayfield

Merzlikins
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 11:00 a.m.
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Ngl, Sharks should just terminate Kane's deal, sign Gusev as a «prove it» deal and then give the Blichfields, Gambrells, Leonards and Balcers every bit of ice time possible
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 11:08 a.m.
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First night of college a kid comes into my dorm room throws up in my trash can and then sleeps here and all I could think about the whole time was Craig Button choosing a third line center in Yanni Gourde to make his Team Canada squad
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 11:28 a.m.
#9722
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First night of college a kid comes into my dorm room throws up in my trash can and then sleeps here and all I could think about the whole time was Craig Button choosing a third line center in Yanni Gourde to make his Team Canada squad


😂😂😂
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 11:34 a.m.
#9723
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Everyone is disrespecting Fleury lol
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 11:38 a.m.
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Luke is a beauty already
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 11:39 a.m.
#9725
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I think something needs explaining, because a lot of people seem to have trouble understanding this:

Why the average d-man is more valuable than the average forward:

2 reasons

1st: there are twice as many forwards as there are d-man, which creates scarcity. I'm sure every July 1st there are 5-6 forwards that can fill the same spot in your lineup (say, a middle six, energetic, PK, 2nd PP unit role) but if you need a specific type of d-man, there may be only 1-2 d-men capable of filling this spot. And if there are as many teams chasing the 5-6 forwards (say, 6 teams) and the same amount of teams chasing the 1-2 d-men, the demande vastly increases for d-men and decreases for forward. So the price for forwards either decreases or at the very least stays the same but the price for d-men massively increases, which leads to them getting overpaid

2nd: the average d-man plays more than the average forward. Say the «average d-man» is a number 4 caliber d-man that plays 20 minutes a game and that the «average forward» is a middle six caliber forward that plays 15 minutes a game, it's only logical that the average defender will be worth more than the average d-man.

This is important because a certain middle sixer, say, Fabbri, will never be worth a number 4 caliber d-man like, say, Edmundson or Dillon, for instance. So to all the people posing these kind of trades, you need to understand you're devaluing the defenseman and overvaluing the forward


Also, if I recall correctly, there are two left-handed for one right-handed. So yes, handedness does influence trade value, especially for defensemen.
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