You also need a goalie to be exposed.

sign Elliot to an extension

mhockey91: Well least Fehr wasn't included in the deal. I guess we'll find out how valuable Fleury is in the next five months. IMO that's still a bad trade for Flames. Elliot and his awful 2.80 GAA , and Fleury and his 3.32GAA/
In the summerFlames would rather not have Elliot (he walks as a UFA) and not have Fleury and his 5.75m contract for 2 full years. 5.75m gets you a lotta player(s) better than Fleury.
Count me among the stupid ones who doesn't believe can be traded without similar money (probably bad money) coming back to the Pens. If Fleury is such a good NHL goalie as some proclaim, maybe the Pens should keep him, and trade Murray. The return would be much better for the Pens.
"but there are a handful of teams that would take him off Pittsburghs hands without sending any bad contracts back." I'm off an open (blank) mind. Who are these teams?

Fleury's numbers are terrible on one of the best teams in the league. How is he going to do when he's traded to a team that isn't as good? Nobody wants his contract. If a team needed a goalie they would've picked Pavelec off waivers. He has one year left for 4.1 million. Better term and money than Fleury. Maybe you are the stupid one.

Anyone who takes Fleury will want to dump cap back as well.

O he's definitely movable just don't expect anything good in return unless you put in more. PIT fans aren't getting this. BUT PIT somehow moved Suter for Bonino+ and moved Scuderi for a much better Daley so anything is possible.

* Anyone who disagrees with me is stupid*

Yes fleury is Struggling this season but that doesn't make him a bad goalie. One bad year doesn't justify being a bad player. If you think he's a bad goalie you clearly don't understand hockey.

He's having a bad season, doesn't make him a bad goalie, you are the stupid one. If you follow any legitimate hockey rumours, you would know that teams are interested in fleury and a fleury trade is likely.

He hasn't ever been that good, sorry to burst the Pens bubble you live in. Flyers would put up 5 goals a game on that fool basically every time. Put Fleury on the Flyers now and the Flyers lose every game from here on out.

He's having a terrible season and hasn't been relevant in the playoffs since 09. That's exactly what teams want in a goalie, terrible playoff performer and down season with bad contract at age 32. Bishop is 30 with an expiring contract. If pitt wants to unload Fleury, Sprong or Guentzel go with.

Fleury in the previous 2 seasons sported a 9.20 and 9.21 save percentage respectively. The last time he played in the playoffs (excluding last season) he was our best player. Fleury is still a great goalie who needs a change of scenery. Goaltending is by far the most mental position in team sports. Let's look at all of the goaltenders that have gotten in a phunk and then rebounded with great seasons. Dubnyk, smith, brobovski are all great examples. I gaurentee you when fleury gets the change of scenery he needs, he will once again be an above average starting goaltender. Am I comparing fleury to price or quick or other elite goaltenders? Absolutely not. But he is still a very good choice for a team such as Calgary that is desperate for a starting goalie and would cost peanuts to acquire him

Not taking away anything from Rutherford he has two cups and has made good trades for Pitt. But he screwed up last draft and should've traded him then. Not sure as to what he was expecting to happen because Eliott was available and Bishop is still out there, so it's a buyers market out there for goalies and teams knew he would be handicapped if he didn't move him (expansion draft). So yeah they can move him but I imagine they would've gotten alot more last summer then they will now and that's poor asset management on Rutherford's part. I think Dallas would be a good fit but that would require Pitt to take a goalie back and I think Carolina and Calgary would be teams looking for a starting goalie however that depends on if he would waive his NTC to go there.

I agree completely with what you're saying. Last summer would've been the perfect time to trade fleury. Realistically, I think fleury will waive his NTC to any location. He wants a fresh start to be a starting goalie and it isn't happening in Pittsburgh

Goalies have less value, especially an end of the line back up, with bad term. Expect to take bad term back.

for god sake Nashless... teams that are in need of goalie are going to overpay for them... Totally agree with the whole Fleury is having a bad year but his numbers previously don't lie that he is a good goalie.

He was*** a good goalie. Players get bad. They don't stay good forever.

No one is going to trade for Fleury. Fleury will be bought out and every team in the league knows it. Pitt can't afford to lose Murray. Fleury gets bought out and if a team needs him (most likely a team not in contention this year) can pay him in free agency. No team will give up an asset of value for him. His numbers don't support the contract. Unless Pitt is in position to take an albatross contract back (which they are not) they will be forced into a buy out.

completely disagree. Fleury will be traded by deadline. Just watch. Pens will receive very little, but they will free themselves of his cap hit

Everyone knows hes getting bought out at the end of the season. It makes no sense for a team to trade for him and be forced to protect him at the expansion draft when it is known he can be signed for a lot cheaper with no term or clause. It's basic hockey ops. I don't know why you can't wrap your head around it.

I can't wait till you're proven wrong

Regarding your comment "that I don't understand hockey". Obviously you don't know the the NHL cap or the expansion protection rules. I will admit that placing the values of players is subjective, but when you can't even mention the teams that would be interested in Fleury besides Flames. guess you just want to be argumentative

This guys a typical penguin fan. He's an idiot.

His logic

Murray> fluery> price > holtby

Mother Theresa Rodzik, lol... Nobody is going to overpay for Fleury. Again expect to take back term.