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whats a fair swap

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Team: 2021-22 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 2, 2021
Published: Jul. 2, 2021
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im putting a bunch of 1 for 1 trades down tell me which ones are fair and not.
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2.
CAR
    Eichel
    3.
    CHI
      Eichel
      4.
      FLA
        Eichel
        5.
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        BUF
        1. Kaprizov, Kirill [RFA Rights]
        MIN
          Eichel
          7.
          MTL
            Eichel
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            MTL
              Eichel
              9.
              NSH
                Eichel
                10.
                NJD
                  Eichel
                  11.
                  NYI
                    Eichel
                    12.
                    NYR
                      Eichel
                      13.
                      NYR
                        Eichel
                        14.
                        OTT
                          Eichel
                          15.
                          PHI
                            Eichel
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                            PIT
                              Eichel
                              17.
                              PIT
                                Eichel
                                18.
                                19.
                                TBL
                                  Eichel
                                  20.
                                  TBL
                                    Eichel
                                    21.
                                    TOR
                                      Eichel
                                      22.
                                      TOR
                                        Eichel
                                        23.
                                        TOR
                                          Eichel
                                          24.
                                          BUF
                                          1. Pettersson, Elias [RFA Rights]
                                          VAN
                                            Eichel
                                            25.
                                            VGK
                                              Eichel
                                              26.
                                              WSH
                                                Eichel
                                                27.
                                                WPG
                                                  Eichel
                                                  28.
                                                  BUF
                                                  1. Hughes, Quinn [RFA Rights]
                                                  VAN
                                                    Eichel
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                                                    FLA
                                                      Eichel
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                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 6:36 a.m.
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                                                      Uh, none of them! Mainly because none of them are 10 mil against the cap while they want a surgery the team disagrees with, and they don't want out of their organizations and the team they are with doesn't want to trade them!
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 6:50 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: Caniac2000
                                                      Uh, none of them! Mainly because none of them are 10 mil against the cap while they want a surgery the team disagrees with, and they don't want out of their organizations and the team they are with doesn't want to trade them!


                                                      Pretty much all teams would do the swap except the obvious few.
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 7:34 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: LindyRuffRider
                                                      Pretty much all teams would do the swap except the obvious few.


                                                      No they wouldn't
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                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 7:35 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: Caniac2000
                                                      Uh, none of them! Mainly because none of them are 10 mil against the cap while they want a surgery the team disagrees with, and they don't want out of their organizations and the team they are with doesn't want to trade them!


                                                      relax i'm just wondering
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 7:35 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: LindyRuffRider
                                                      Pretty much all teams would do the swap except the obvious few.


                                                      I mean, 3 of the first 4 would decline, and the 4th would probably have to think long and hard about it, so without going through the entire list I'm going to say that it's probably more than a few...
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 7:38 a.m.
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                                                      If we're ignoring salary, I'd swap most of those guys except Pastrnak, Barkov, Kaprizov, Suzuki, Point, Mathews, and probably Pettersson
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 8:02 a.m.
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                                                      Parise would be a good swap maybe James Neal too. They are both healthy.
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                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 8:05 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
                                                      No they wouldn't


                                                      uhh yeah they would.
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 8:30 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: LindyRuffRider
                                                      uhh yeah they would.


                                                      There are 29 "swaps" listed above name 10 of them that would be done for a severely injured 10M disgruntled Eichel. Only ones I can see are Ekblad, Josi, Carlson, Suzuki (maybe), Malkin, Marner, and Tavares.

                                                      Regardless Buffalo isn't going to get a top end player back from anyone, mostly picks and prospects
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                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 9:17 a.m.
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                                                      From the guy with a creepy looking photo of Dahlin that looks like Freddy Kruger

                                                      Quoting: LindyRuffRider
                                                      uhh yeah they would.
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 9:19 a.m.
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                                                      Buffalo is looking at picks, prospects, and NHL player(s) not at the superstar level as a return.
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 9:19 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
                                                      There are 29 "swaps" listed above name 10 of them that would be done for a severely injured 10M disgruntled Eichel. Only ones I can see are Ekblad, Josi, Carlson, Suzuki (maybe), Malkin, Marner, and Tavares.

                                                      Regardless Buffalo isn't going to get a top end player back from anyone, mostly picks and prospects


                                                      Name 10? Sure.

                                                      Huberdeau
                                                      Suzuki
                                                      Caulfield
                                                      Josi
                                                      Hughes
                                                      Stamkos
                                                      Chabot
                                                      Malkin
                                                      Tavares
                                                      Marner
                                                      Carlson
                                                      Scheifele
                                                      Ekblad

                                                      Severely injured is a bit of stretch too.
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 9:20 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: Caniac555
                                                      From the guy with a creepy looking photo of Dahlin that looks like Freddy Kruger


                                                      The only creep is you. Dahlin looks handsome.
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 9:21 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: LindyRuffRider
                                                      uhh yeah they would.


                                                      Remember when you thought you could get a haul for Hall. It's going to be the same disappointment.

                                                      A) You have one year before his NMC kicks in and he chooses.
                                                      B) He is hurt - with a neck injury.
                                                      C) He is coming off his worst year by far.
                                                      D) Kunetzov is the contingency plan for most teams.
                                                      E) that Contract... 10m is a lot. For a guy who is supposed to be a franchise center, he has zero playoff games. Most, if not all of the other franchise center's got their teams to the playoffs at least once.
                                                      F) He is a great player and whatever team he ends up with be very happy. I don't see any scenario where Sabres fans feel like they won the trade.
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 9:47 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: Propeller09
                                                      Remember when you thought you could get a haul for Hall. It's going to be the same disappointment.

                                                      A) You have one year before his NMC kicks in and he chooses.
                                                      B) He is hurt - with a neck injury.
                                                      C) He is coming off his worst year by far.
                                                      D) Kunetzov is the contingency plan for most teams.
                                                      E) that Contract... 10m is a lot. For a guy who is supposed to be a franchise center, he has zero playoff games. Most, if not all of the other franchise center's got their teams to the playoffs at least once.
                                                      F) He is a great player and whatever team he ends up with be very happy. I don't see any scenario where Sabres fans feel like they won the trade.


                                                      Who thought we were getting a haul for Hall lmao? He was a rental with a NMC that was playing horribly. Literally nobody with a brain thought that.

                                                      A. The NMC helps the team right now. He can decline trades when the NMC kicks in. He still would have to work with the team.
                                                      B. Yea he has a herniated disc. Friedman said if he gets surgery it's 2-3 months recovery time. The guy is signed for 5 more years.
                                                      C. Injured Eichel still put up 18 points in 21 games with good analytics.
                                                      D. And Kunetzov is worse than Eichel.
                                                      E. 10M is a good deal for a player like him. Would get more if he was a FA. The "zero playoff games" is a joke argument. The team has been an absolute dumpster fire the last 5 years. He's not in control of the awful depth, goalies, defense, and coaching.
                                                      F. Getting high picks & good prospects would be a win.
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 9:53 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: LindyRuffRider
                                                      Name 10? Sure.

                                                      Huberdeau
                                                      Suzuki
                                                      Caulfield
                                                      Josi
                                                      Hughes
                                                      Stamkos
                                                      Chabot
                                                      Malkin
                                                      Tavares
                                                      Marner
                                                      Carlson
                                                      Scheifele
                                                      Ekblad

                                                      Severely injured is a bit of stretch too.


                                                      Huberdeau, Stamkos, Scheifele, and Chabot can all definitely be removed from that list. Hughes and Caulfield probably wouldn't be available either.

                                                      Severely injured is almost and understatement actually. His neck injury is extremely serious.
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 9:56 a.m.
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                                                      We'll give you Brent Burns. You're welcome, Bye!
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                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 9:57 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: LindyRuffRider
                                                      Who thought we were getting a haul for Hall lmao? He was a rental with a NMC that was playing horribly. Literally nobody with a brain thought that.

                                                      A. The NMC helps the team right now. He can decline trades when the NMC kicks in. He still would have to work with the team.
                                                      B. Yea he has a herniated disc. Friedman said if he gets surgery it's 2-3 months recovery time. The guy is signed for 5 more years.
                                                      C. Injured Eichel still put up 18 points in 21 games with good analytics.
                                                      D. And Kunetzov is worse than Eichel.
                                                      E. 10M is a good deal for a player like him. Would get more if he was a FA. The "zero playoff games" is a joke argument. The team has been an absolute dumpster fire the last 5 years. He's not in control of the awful depth, goalies, defense, and coaching.
                                                      F. Getting high picks & good prospects would be a win.


                                                      A) I don't agree. Every team knows they can low ball because you won't have a choice in a year. Barkov is also a FA in a year.
                                                      B) 23 Year olds with herniated discs. Eek. It's a the very least a red flag.
                                                      C) Yes, he had two goals. He is clearly a good NHL player. You will get something good, it won't be what you think
                                                      D) Yes, but he is cheaper and almost as productive. Shorter term, but will cost less.
                                                      E) There is exactly one player in the NHL who has been paid 10M+ and won a playoff series - Carey Price.
                                                      F) Depends on what you get.
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 9:58 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
                                                      Huberdeau, Stamkos, Scheifele, and Chabot can all definitely be removed from that list. Hughes and Caulfield probably wouldn't be available either.

                                                      Severely injured is almost and understatement actually. His neck injury is extremely serious.


                                                      It takes a hard stance to get me to agree with Ledge_And_Dairy, but here we are.
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 9:59 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
                                                      Huberdeau, Stamkos, Scheifele, and Chabot can all definitely be removed from that list. Hughes and Caulfield probably wouldn't be available either.

                                                      Severely injured is almost and understatement actually. His neck injury is extremely serious.


                                                      No lmao. Huberdeau is a 28 year old winger with 1 year left on his deal. They're taking Eichel in a swap. Stamkos will be 31 and has injury concerns of his own. They're taking Eichel. Schiefele is older with his own injury concerns. They would take Eichel. Eichel over Chabot is a no brainer. Caulfield over Eichel is hilarious.

                                                      Are you his doctor? Where are you getting extremely serious from?
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 10:08 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: Propeller09
                                                      A) I don't agree. Every team knows they can low ball because you won't have a choice in a year. Barkov is also a FA in a year.
                                                      B) 23 Year olds with herniated discs. Eek. It's a the very least a red flag.
                                                      C) Yes, he had two goals. He is clearly a good NHL player. You will get something good, it won't be what you think
                                                      D) Yes, but he is cheaper and almost as productive. Shorter term, but will cost less.
                                                      E) There is exactly one player in the NHL who has been paid 10M+ and won a playoff series - Carey Price.
                                                      F) Depends on what you get.


                                                      A. There are teams like Anaheim or Columbus that have no chance at him once his NMC kicks in. They're not preferable destinations. If they want him they have to pull the trigger now. Barkov isn't going to those teams either as a FA. Plenty of teams aren't FA destinations and this is their golden opportunity.
                                                      B. Red flag sure.
                                                      C. Lol. He had the lowest shooting % ever. Even with horrible puck luck he played good. What do you think I'm expecting?
                                                      D. He's cheaper because he's worse. Plays on a way better team too, Older & character concerns. \
                                                      E. Players haven't started making 10M+ only recently. Use % of salary cap instead. Lidstrom won with 17.3%, which would be 13.8M right now and Crosby won with 15.3% which would be 12.5M.
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 10:11 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: LindyRuffRider
                                                      No lmao. Huberdeau is a 28 year old winger with 1 year left on his deal. They're taking Eichel in a swap. Stamkos will be 31 and has injury concerns of his own. They're taking Eichel. Schiefele is older with his own injury concerns. They would take Eichel. Eichel over Chabot is a no brainer. Caulfield over Eichel is hilarious.

                                                      Are you his doctor? Where are you getting extremely serious from?


                                                      Try doing even some remote homework on a cervical disk replacement surgery or cervical fusion surgery. Those are Eichels only 2 options right now for getting back on the ice. This is not a torn ACL or broken foot, this is a very serious and uncommon injury that is going to require surgery.
                                                      Nobody in the NHL has ever gotten the disk replacement, and only 2 players in recent history have gotten the fusion. 1 of those players is still playing (Letang, but it did effect him for a while) the other was forced into retirement shortly after (Dorsett).
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                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 10:13 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: LindyRuffRider
                                                      A. There are teams like Anaheim or Columbus that have no chance at him once his NMC kicks in. They're not preferable destinations. If they want him they have to pull the trigger now. Barkov isn't going to those teams either as a FA. Plenty of teams aren't FA destinations and this is their golden opportunity.
                                                      B. Red flag sure.
                                                      C. Lol. He had the lowest shooting % ever. Even with horrible puck luck he played good. What do you think I'm expecting?
                                                      D. He's cheaper because he's worse. Plays on a way better team too, Older & character concerns. \
                                                      E. Players haven't started making 10M+ only recently. Use % of salary cap instead. Lidstrom won with 17.3%, which would be 13.8M right now and Crosby won with 15.3% which would be 12.5M.


                                                      He is not #5 or #87.

                                                      Never will be.
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 10:15 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
                                                      Try doing even some remote homework on a cervical disk replacement surgery or cervical fusion surgery. Those are Eichels only 2 options right now for getting back on the ice. This is not a torn ACL or broken foot, this is a very serious and uncommon injury that is going to require surgery


                                                      You have no idea about his condition currently. You haven't looked at his MRI or the condition of his disc. Friedman said on his podcast that even if he gets the disc replacement it's 2-3 months recovery time. A concern? Sure. Extremely serious? Huge exaggeration.
                                                      Jul. 2, 2021 at 10:17 a.m.
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                                                      Quoting: LindyRuffRider
                                                      You have no idea about his condition currently. You haven't looked at his MRI or the condition of his disc. Friedman said on his podcast that even if he gets the disc replacement it's 2-3 months recovery time. A concern? Sure. Extremely serious? Huge exaggeration.


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