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Created by: wpg
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 2, 2021
Published: Sep. 2, 2021
Team: 2021-22 New York Islanders
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Aspirot, Jonathan
OTT
  1. Palmieri, Kyle
2.
NYI
  1. Brännström, Erik
  2. Brown, Connor
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
OTT
  1. Aspirot, Jonathan
3.
NYI
  1. Panarin, Artemi
NYR
  1. Johnston, Ross
  2. Brännström, Erik
  3. Komarov, Leo
  4. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
  5. 2024 1st round pick (NYI)
  6. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
  7. 2023 2nd round pick (NYI)
  8. 2024 2nd round pick (NYI)
  9. 2023 4th round pick (NYI)
  10. 2022 5th round pick (NYI)
  11. 2023 7th round pick (NYI)
4.
NYI
  1. 2022 4th round pick (PHI)
  2. 2023 7th round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Clutterbuck, Cal
  2. 2024 4th round pick (NYI)
  3. 2022 6th round pick (NYI)
5.
NYI
  1. 2022 7th round pick (SEA)
SEA
  1. Hickey, Thomas
  2. 2022 4th round pick (PHI)
6.
NYI
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (CBJ)
WPG
  1. Appleby, Ken
  2. 2022 1st round pick (NYI)
Buyouts
  • Rick DiPietro: $0
Buried
  • Ilya Sorokin: $2,875,000 ($4,000,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$85,638,711$1,365,854$1,325,000-$4,138,711
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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Barzal, Mathew
$7,000,000
C
RFA - 2
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Bailey, Josh
$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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Lee, Anders
$7,000,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 5
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Nelson, Brock
$6,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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Brown, Connor
$3,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Beauvillier, Anthony
$4,150,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
$5,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 5
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Pánik, Richard
$1,375,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Martin, Matt
$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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Cizikas, Casey
$2,500,000
C
UFA - 6
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Wahlstrom, Oliver
$894,167
RW, C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Pelech, Adam
$5,750,000
LD
UFA - 8
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Pulock, Ryan
$5,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 3
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Greene, Andy
$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Mayfield, Scott
$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Varlamov, Semyon
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
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Aho, Sebastian
$725,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Dobson, Noah
$894,167
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Boychuk, Johnny
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1

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Sep. 2, 2021 at 10:39 p.m.
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Huh?
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Sep. 2, 2021 at 10:40 p.m.
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the value difference between palmieri and brown (if there is any) is definitely not brannstrom and a second
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Sep. 2, 2021 at 11:07 p.m.
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Wtf is that Jets trade.. Lol
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Sep. 2, 2021 at 11:24 p.m.
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Crazy enough, if we did that we could properly address and pay for two centers of quality and sign all our young guys. Would leave the wings as Kreider, Laf, Kakko and Kravtsov, so we’d need some serious progress and development in order to even do this. But if we ended up keeping Mika and signing a guy like Hertl or Trochek, we could solidify down the middle with Chytil and Goodrow down the middle as well. Opens up the right side for Gauthier on the third line and maybe Barron or Othmann. Fourth line of Blais, Rooney and Reaves. Could be a decent lineup. All comes down to how our young guys progress. If they bust we’re literally screwed, if not we could be in good shape moving forward. However, I do love the Breadman and would be hard pressed to move our best player.
Sep. 2, 2021 at 11:36 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Wtf is that Jets trade.. Lol


I think since the Jets lost Appleton they really needed another Apple in the lineup and we're willing to pay...dearly for it. THis is just a shot in the dark here, could be wrong. I mean, they're crisp, juicy and healthy so can't go wrong.
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Sep. 3, 2021 at 6:06 a.m.
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Quoting: lilfimpen
I think since the Jets lost Appleton they really needed another Apple in the lineup and we're willing to pay...dearly for it. THis is just a shot in the dark here, could be wrong. I mean, they're crisp, juicy and healthy so can't go wrong.


Lol. The Jets organization lost one apple (Appleton) and discarded this other apple (Appleby) two years ago. Plot twist: maybe they are anti-Apple. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Sep. 3, 2021 at 8:36 a.m.
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Quoting: Borocop
the value difference between palmieri and brown (if there is any) is definitely not brannstrom and a second


I wouldn't trade Brown for Palmieri 1 for 1. Brown has two more years at $3.6. Fantastic value and perfect term considering all the prospects OTT has coming up.
If OTT can extend him for the right term and money, great; if not they get a very solid return for him at the 22-23 deadline and create room for one of Boucher, Jarventie, Greig, Sokolov...
Palmieri also turns 31 this season and his deal takes him to 34. FULL NTC the first 2 years, MNTC the last 2. He's still a solid player but 31-34 are undeniably declining years.
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Sep. 3, 2021 at 9:25 a.m.
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I'm literally so confused ...
Sep. 4, 2021 at 3:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Borocop
the value difference between palmieri and brown (if there is any) is definitely not brannstrom and a second

Quoting: TCMonkey
I wouldn't trade Brown for Palmieri 1 for 1. Brown has two more years at $3.6. Fantastic value and perfect term considering all the prospects OTT has coming up.
If OTT can extend him for the right term and money, great; if not they get a very solid return for him at the 22-23 deadline and create room for one of Boucher, Jarventie, Greig, Sokolov...
Palmieri also turns 31 this season and his deal takes him to 34. FULL NTC the first 2 years, MNTC the last 2. He's still a solid player but 31-34 are undeniably declining years.


I take Connor Brown over Kyle Palmieri without even thinking one second

Palmieri is 3 years older, makes 1.4 AAV more

Last 2 seasons :

Connor Brown : 127 GP, 37 Goals, 41 Assists, 78 Points
Kyle Palmieri : 116 GP, 35 Goals, 31 Assists, 66 Points

Don't think we need to enter into PK and defensive stats (by the way, Brown started receiving Selke votes last season and I think it will happen again)


It's crazy how much underrated Connor Brown still is.
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