Quoting: MJC13
Couturier and Eichel, those are the two you may have cases on. Barzal and Petersson are worth more because of their age, but RIGHT NOW they are not better than Hertl, and every metric you could think of would back that. And Seguin? Are we still in 2016? as for the others you have on the bottom:
Yes, Yes, Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes, Yes
And I don't "think" he is, there are literally advanced statistics that I posted in my comment that show he's better. You think a 92 percentile player, 20th in the league per GAR projections, is not a top 15 player at his own position?
There is more to evaluating a player than point totals and there are ways to prove someone's abilities without just saying their "awesome defensively"
Every metric? If you want to talk about Corsi, find someone else, as i don’t think it has any value. I would hesitate to tell people about evaluating players defensively if you’re going to launch into metrics. You aren’t evaluating anything, you’re hoping numbers can just do it for you. Now, points aren’t everything, but when you’re talking about a top 15 center, they matter a lot. So, how about a metric like, i don’t know, scoring?
But, it seems like you like stuff on paper….has Hertl ever received a selke vote? Just one fifth place vote?
Toews certainly has, and he’s won. And he outscores Hertl. By kind of a ton.
Seguin game has certainly become more well rounded over the years….and there’s the whole scoring thing.
Barzal…i mean, cmon.
Couturier i don’t just have a case on. It’s open and shut. He’s better at literally everything. He won the selke in the last couple years, no?
Pettersson is just light years better than Hertl. His impact on the game is drastically better.
We’re on the same page with eichel.
Malkin i can see a strong debate for that one.
Backstrom….i just don’t get how you can go with hertl on this one. Backstrom outscores him…always. He’s been a selke candidate a whole bunch. Total package player.
Hertl is a real nice player, but any contending team that’s trading for him is going to have him as a 2C….because that’s what he is. A good 2C. 1st and a kicker, like it’s always been.