Thoughts on the Leafs 2RD issue?

Explain the Lafreniere trade

Coyotes keep Crouse.

Well looking at your trade proposals tells me all I need to know about taking your opinion on the Leafs needs seriously.

I think Lafreniere is capable of breaking out. His on-ice results are really good and his individual contributions are at a similar rate compared to other top playmaking wingers:

Lafreniere - 0.726 iXG/60 + 0.8 xA/60
Panarin - 0.715 iXG/60 + 0.853 xA/60
Marner - 0.8 iXG/60 + 0.88 xA/60
Kaprisov - 0.68 iXG/60 + 0.68 xA/60
Marchand - 0.88 iXG/60 + 0.84 xA/60
Gaudreau - 0.75 iXG/60 + 0.92 xA/60
Teravainen - 0.89 iXG + 0.93 xA/60

I think he can do well in a more offensive role, but he’s stuck on NYR’s fourth line due to their LW depth.

Folks just get so wrapped up in these meaningless number ratings of Dmen. What is the difference between a 1, 2 and 3? All play the PK and regular strength, all play against top lines

Three horrid trades you proposed for the non Leaf teams. LAF is an NHLer, Strome is an NHLer. Crouse certainly is as good Ritchie and cheaper

He was 4th line for 1 game because they were rewarding Rooney for his excellent play.. 1 game and it wasn’t punishment.

I don't think the Holl not playing is the reason for the turn around in the Leafs defense. They've changed from a 1-2-2 neutral zone defensive scheme, which pressures for turn overs/offsides/etc but gives up odd man rushes, to a 1-1-3, which is more passive in the neutral zone but stops those rushes. They did this starting in the Vegas game and the defensive improvements have followed. If Holl were playing, he'd look better too.

To give you an idea of how those systems have played out in the past, the 1-2-2 was run by Babcock in his time with the Leafs while last season Keefe ran the 1-1-3

You can't be serious. This is a number 1 overall pick that has had barely any NHL time and you think the Rangers are going to trade him at all let alone for that sad package?
Name another time a 1st overall pick has been traded for peanuts because of his stats the first 2 seasons in the league.

And all the other trades are of course, atrocious

Leafs 2rd is Brodie. So no. No upgrade required. But I think what @palhal stated is the most accurate. Leafs have players capable of the minutes and duties required.

This guy has changed from being a noted Marner troll to this constant Laf for very little trades. I am convinced it's just a bit and not a real person.

Exactly, unfortunately people don’t think here.

Yeah I'm now convinced the guy who made this post is definitely a troll who's playing it up a bit to blend in. Not even worth the time to wonder what goes through his hollow head

Thanks for the feedback. So I guess you guys are fine with Dermott with Rielly?

Personally I would rather Lilly play on the top pair, he’s been dominant but Dermott has done a fine job there, so no complaints.

Thanks for the feedback, I didn’t know it was to reward Rooney, but I still don’t see Lafreniere achieving much in NYR due to their depth at LW.

That’s fair, I guess all 3 RDs have shown pedigree to handle top matchups.

Thanks for the insight. I haven’t watched the games so I didn’t know about the formation change. But that makes sense. I definitely feel the 1-1-3 suits the Leafs forward’s better because they are not so much physical or fast as they are deceptive.

Who wouldn't want to improve their Dmen...but at what cost? Leafs 10th in GAA and 23th in goals scored for per game. But there is always this consensus on CF, the Leafs Dmen are poor and other teams Dmen are sooooooo great.

Haha yeah that’s true. I guess based on current performance there’s no need to change the Leafs blueline too much.

Stick the course for now. Depth is more important than anything in this league. Holl will eventually get back in and will perform well.

Only player that could be shipped out at this point is Ritchie. He has done absolutely nothing. And his cap hit gone allows Mikheyev to slide back in no problem.

First of all, I think having either of Dermott, Holl, Sandin or Liljgren in the top 4 is probably fine for now. None of them are great top 4 guys, but they'll do. I haven't watched the leafs since they tryed out Dermott on the top pairing (I've been quite busy), but people say he's been good so I'll trust them. Shopping Holl might be a good idea, but only if they can get a second round pick or something of similar value, it would not be a good look to trade him for less after the whole McCann thing.

Second of all, you are crazy if you think that the ranger would accept this. Laf was a first overall pick less then 2 years ago. He's going to be a big part of the rangers future and they aren't giving him up for a couple of second round assets. Try adding 2 first round picks to that deal before the rangers consider.

Thanks for the feedback. I just don't see Lafreniere being a vital part of NYR's future. I have followed the situation closely and they aren't even using him properly, they are trying to develop him into a grinder.

And that might be true, but they aren't going to give him away for pennies on the dollar. He's worth twice that at a minumium