islanders have no interest in that

Its gonna cost at least a 1st for scott mayfield

What's the deal with Reilly? All of his numbers still look pretty good, but I've seen him traded for next to nothing in other Bruins ACGMs and he's a scratch here. Would love to have him on the Island still...

why does vancouver pick up the phone? please explain it to me, that trade is awful

Not sold on DeBrusk as a return for Miller... doesn't really solve our cap problems moving forward considering his QO after this season.

If you want Miller at this deadline (value considered as a rental + full season) I would hope the price would be Lysell + 2 1st Round Picks.

Incoming Bruins fans declaring war against me for my homer evaluation of Miller's value.

so the equivalent of 3 firsts? dream on man

Isn't he on your bottom D-Pair, why would we pay a first for a fringe top 4 guy

I heard this trade proposal almost verbatim from the host of the Bruins Beat podcast except he didn't value Miller or Mayfield as much as this ACGM. If/when Sweeney makes any moves they'll most likely be minimal and hated!!

He hasn't really been great in the defensive zone, and it's not necessarily a scratch here. Although he is scratched, it creates competition for him, Clifton, and Vaak for the last spot. Right now, I think Vaak is playing his way into the lineup. He's been great in all three zones.

That's where I got these trades from. The Miller trade is exactly what Evan's trade value is. Just wanted some other opinions

he's been playing top pair minutes most of the season (65% of his TOI has been with Adam Pelech) with Ryan Pulock hurt, and he's got another year on his contract with a $1.45M

Miller yes! I don't remember Frederick and TWO picks being included for Mayfield. As much as I'd love miller on the team, Van would likely get better offers! Mayfield would be an interesting add but not for that price!

Agreed. Debrusk is basically a cap dump given his insane qualifying offer he’s owed



That is the current ask. If you don’t want to pay it that’s fine. The Canucks aren’t in a position to need to trade Miller

I'm going off of what TBL gave up last year for David Savard. A first and a third. Boston can't give up that, and Freddy has no place on this team right now, especially if they trade for a 2nd line C. So maybe take Lauko out, but I think it starts with Freddy and 2 picks

Actually the equivalent of 3.5 firsts (I value Lysell at 1.5 firsts at this point). If you want a detailed breakdown of comparables leading to that evaluation there was an interesting post on the canucks subreddit last week.

At times, he makes some mistakes in the DZ but they appear worse than they are because the goaltending hasn't been good enough against high danger chances so far. Otherwise, he moves the puck well in transition and is pretty good offensively. Overall, more good than bad.

I like JT Miller I really do, would be a solid add to the team, but in no real world scenarios are the bruins or any team for that matter giving up the equivalent of 3.5 first round picks. the above trade is likely the best offer the bruins would realistically put forward. For that price you can keep miller. Debrusk doesnt have to push his QO. if he gets a shot at legit minutes to maximize his earnings potential he would be stupid not to exercise that vs going straight to the QO. Long term situation would be more worthwhile to Debrusk that short term money. Studnicka has been absolutely solid in the AHL and I think it would be a mistake to trade him but at the same time you gotta give to get something. Bruins arent trading their top prospect and b2b firsts in 2 of the deepest drafts for miller. i just dont see any team doing it. just doesnt make sense to overpay when theres other much cheaper equally as good options on the market.

ya sorry miller ain't getting an A tier prospect plus 2 firsts late or not, we all know he will be leaving in free agency teams will wait till then or till when he forces himself outta van because they aren't a strong enough team to make a deep run in playoffs or when miller realizes van most likely can't give him the extension he wants and then he will also most likely force himself out

Lets see. Using comparables in the flat cap era the 2 i see are savard and chiarot. All reports are that chiarot will get a 1st and obviously savard already got a 1st. Now mayfield also has a 2nd year at 1.45 for a top 4 RHD thats gonna be expensive. Considering how well hes played the 1st half of the season and his 2nd year id probably want more than a 1st but its a starting point. No way im going lower than a 1st. As for a different comment you made about frederic and a couple of picks, frederic ismt looking like anything more than a 4th liner and a 3rd and 4th arent gonna cut it.

I understand what you're saying, and I agree to some extent. I don't feel paying 3.5 firsts for Miller would be an overpay, almost every situation where you see a top player being traded in a similar situation to Miller's the team acquiring said player ends up the winner in the long term. The only way I see us getting a reasonable package for Miller is if more than one team puts their money where their mouth is and a bidding war ensues and we get to this echelon of offers. I hope that if we don't get at least 3 firsts worth of value for Miller that we hold onto him until the offseason, let him develop his value even further on our team and then trade him in the offseason or next deadline. At that point, the price obviously won't be 3.5 firsts so teams will be more inclined to make a deal with the Canucks, and the buyers won't be limited to contenders.

If you want miller for a rental season AND a full season, you are paying those prices put together, which comparables show is equivalent to 3.5 first-round picks give or take.

I don't think it is going to go down this way, Miller has no power in this situation since his contract is completely tradeable (No NTC). If we don't get the proper value at this deadline then I hope we hold on to him until the offseason or next trade deadline when more teams will be competing for him, as well as having more ice time to develop his value, and also the price coming down from 3.5 firsts to 1.5/2 firsts. As I mentioned in the above comment, if a team wants to acquire miller at this deadline they are going to pay the rental price PLUS the entire next season price, which combined (based off comparables) is about 3.5 first-round picks.

i just don't see that happening and if it does it won't be 2 first and an A tier prospect
teams would most likely give a B+ - A tier prospect a 1st a young nhl player and maybe a 3rd or 2nd but i can't remember the last time i saw a team trade 2 1sts in one deal

Can't remember the last time I saw a player of JT Miller's calibre (consider his offensive, defensive, and leadership repution) get traded with 1.5 seasons left on a team-favourable contract in a deal.

but like I said, I also think it will take multiple avenues of serious interest for it to reach this price, and in the end if we don't reach this threshold then we should hold onto him until the offseason, allow him to improve his value, and when the price comes down to just a full season of JT Miller, more teams can bid ontop of eachother.

That would be the smart thing to do but I think the reason guys like garland, miller, boeser are even being considered in trade talks is due to the need for cap space
Canucks currently have 2.85 mill in cap while also having hamonic and sutter on LTIR, they will need to resign Boeser and Motte this offseason and they have no big contracts coming off the books

i see myers and hamonic near immovable unless cancuks retain but no shot canucks retain on myers when they are trying to clear cap not pay for a player to be on another team
poolman's contract would be tough to move and you will get pennys to the dollar for him at best
Moving pearson screws over their forward depth with no true replacement and he is on a relatively good contract for what he does so i don't see management wanting to move him

in the next 2 offseasons they have to re-sign miller, boeser who will probably both warrent a 7-8.5 mill contract and horvat probably around 6- 7.5 mill contract and in those 2 offseasons no big contracts except hamonic's 3 mill and luongo's 3 mill recapture come off the books now also you have to play the factor that canucks definitely need some big improvements on the defence outside of OEL who will probably start declining in the next few years and his contract will also then become immovable and then also quinn hughes canucks lack another dman who should be played in the top4

so in 2 years they clear around 31.15 mill in contracts which is a lot of cap
heres canucks needs
Resign Miller 7.5 mill
Resign Boeser 7.5 mill
Resign Horvat 6.5 mill
Resign Hoglaner 4 mill minimum if he doesn't completely breakout and become a good top 6 scorer and warrant more
Resign Motte 2 mill
Resign Rathbone 1.1 mill few other bottom line/ pair and depth guys too you might want to resign so add an extra 1.5 mill minimum there
now what else does van need to add to compete
1. Back up goalie
2. 2 Top 4 dmen
3. 2 forwards either 3rd or 4th liners

so minus all those players that need to be resigned that leaves van with 1.05 mill to sign a back up goalie, depth forwards and 2 top 4 dmen even if you clear myers cap 7.05 mill still isn't enough to fill all those holes add on that canucks don't have the greatest prospect pool so that can internally fill there holes they need to clear cap

i know miller is great and definitely deserves a value around 2-3 1sts but canucks are in deep cap **** and teams will take advantage of that look at vegas, vegas is gonna get minimal returns on martinez, dadonov, or smith due to the fact they need to move cap.
If canucks wait till next season to move miller his value will drop no matter how well he plays as it's no longer a question that cancuks will need to move one of horvat or miller just so they can have a full 21 man roster that can actually compete not to mention they are UFA's and that will hinder their value slightly aswell

Right now Miller's value is currently at it's highest but if they set the price to high and to out of reach for teams that do want to acquire him they will pay the price and lose out on value

atleast if they clear miller's 5.25 now and avoid having to pay 7+ mill that leaves them with around 14.05 mill to work with while also acquiring a 1st a young player a B tier prospect and a 3rd or 2nd

they can have a top 6 of Bo, Petey, Garland, Boeser, Hoglander and then that leaves them with 14 mill to acquire 2 good dmen which they need badly and also have cap left over to get an extra solid 3rd liner and a good backup goalie they will be a much more competive team there rather then if they stay in this cap crunch to long and get greedy in trade and then have no depth or solid top 4 RHD's and could potentially ruin their best years at competing