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next year plus scheifele deal

Created by: jasonliq
Team: 2022-23 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 26, 2022
Published: Feb. 26, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
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1$1,500,000
2$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$825,000
1$825,000
Trades
1.
WPG
  1. Chytil, Filip
  2. Lundkvist, Nils
  3. 2022 1st round pick (NYR)
2.
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  1. 2022 6th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Nemeth, Patrik
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (NYR)
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any team that can take him
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2022
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20$81,500,000$77,791,469$0$4,500,000$3,708,531
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LW
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LW
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UFA - 7
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UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
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RD
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G
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Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:29 p.m.
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Not close for scheifele
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Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:30 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Not close for scheifele


let the GM decide whats enough
Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:30 p.m.
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Quoting: jasonliq
let the GM decide whats enough


Is that you?
Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:31 p.m.
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Is that you?


nope
Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:32 p.m.
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nope


Got it.
Then the Jets GM will politely tell you that it’s not enough.
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Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:33 p.m.
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Quoting: hwjw
Got it.
Then the Jets GM will politely tell you that it’s not enough.


jack eichel got a roster player prospect a first and a 2nd scheifele isnt eichel
Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:35 p.m.
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This deal is even father away from being close for Scheifele.
Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
This deal is even father away from being close for Scheifele.


delusional lmao
Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:36 p.m.
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Quoting: jasonliq
jack eichel got a roster player prospect a first and a 2nd scheifele isnt eichel


Dumpster fire of Buffalo with a new gm, Winnipeg is in a different situation and a seasoned gm that may not want to acquire prospects for next gm.
Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:38 p.m.
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take out chytil and lundkvist and add lafreniere and schneider and we have a deal👍👍👍
Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:38 p.m.
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Dumpster fire of Buffalo with a new gm, Winnipeg is in a different situation and a seasoned gm that may not want to acquire prospects for next gm.


nils would be on the team the second he got there
Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:39 p.m.
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take out chytil and lundkvist and add lafreniere and schneider and we have a deal👍👍👍


yeah......
Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:39 p.m.
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Edited Feb. 26, 2022 at 9:24 p.m.
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jack eichel got a roster player prospect a first and a 2nd scheifele isnt eichel


Vegas carried a lot of risk that Eichel would never play hockey again if the surgery didn’t work. Also factor in his salary hit and that limited the teams interested thereby limiting return. Scheifele is 4M cheaper for 3 playoff runs. A lot more teams can fit that kind of player in their cap structure meaning bids go up.
The proposal above really doesn’t address any of Pegs needs. Nils would be ok but we already have too many small offensive defenders.
I must admit, I don’t expect a huge return for FeFe, but the above proposal is woefully inadequate as it does not have a prime piece coming back like Laffy or Schneider.
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Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:39 p.m.
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delusional lmao


I think every poster here has been trying to tell you you're delusional without using the word, but since you've admitted it, that's the first step to making reasonable offers.
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Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:41 p.m.
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Quoting: jasonliq
jack eichel got a roster player prospect a first and a 2nd scheifele isnt eichel


Scheifele doesn’t cost $10 million. Scheifele didn’t just have controversial back surgery. Scheifele and Eichel are pretty darn close in point production with Eichel being better than Schief defensively.
BUF insisted on Krebs. I’m sure VGK offered other young prospects before Krebs was added.
The Jets would insist on it starting with Schneider.
Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:42 p.m.
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nils would be on the team the second he got there


No room on blueline currently, but will be interesting after deadline and draft. Chevy on his last legs, so wIll be interesting to see what his next moves are to try to buy him a few more years.
Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
I think every poster here has been trying to tell you you're delusional without using the word, but since you've admitted it, that's the first step to making reasonable offers.


ranger fans will say its to much Winnipeg fans will say its not enough you really cant win with these things
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Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:47 p.m.
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ranger fans will say its to much Winnipeg fans will say its not enough you really cant win with these things


This is as true of a CapFriendly statement that exists.
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Feb. 26, 2022 at 6:48 p.m.
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ranger fans will say its to much Winnipeg fans will say its not enough you really cant win with these things


Find a deal that both sides hate, then you found the g spot.
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Feb. 26, 2022 at 7:09 p.m.
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ranger fans will say its to much Winnipeg fans will say its not enough you really cant win with these things


True, but you can at least try to find out what the other team needs and see if you can match that. Just adding players that you want to get rid of from your team while ignoring the other team's needs, isn't usually realistic.

Especially when you try to use a completely different trade situation that has no similarities to your offer as a comparable.
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Feb. 26, 2022 at 7:10 p.m.
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This isn’t anywhere close to scheif value
Feb. 26, 2022 at 7:12 p.m.
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Scheifele is going to cost you one of Laf/Schneider + one of Lundkivst/Barron + 1st at least.

I know you compared this to the Eichel deal but that’s basically comparing apples to oranges. Eichel was hurt, and wanted a controversial surgery. He also had publicly requested a deal and said he wouldn’t play for the Sabres again. That right there lowers his value a ton, not to mention there were 2-3 teams interested.

I mean look at what Arizona wants for Chychrun, he’s a LD, which is in less demand than a 1C in his prime at a reasonable cap hit with term left.
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Feb. 26, 2022 at 7:21 p.m.
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Wow this is an underpayment. Offer easily gets beat by other teams
Feb. 26, 2022 at 7:23 p.m.
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Scheifele is going to cost you one of Laf/Schneider + one of Lundkivst/Barron + 1st at least.

I know you compared this to the Eichel deal but that’s basically comparing apples to oranges. Eichel was hurt, and wanted a controversial surgery. He also had publicly requested a deal and said he wouldn’t play for the Sabres again. That right there lowers his value a ton, not to mention there were 2-3 teams interested.

I mean look at what Arizona wants for Chychrun, he’s a LD, which is in less demand than a 1C in his prime at a reasonable cap hit with term left.


I totally agree with this take. There was not a guarantee that Eichel would come back and play like a top player in the league and Vegas was willing to take that chance.

If Scheifele is available at the deadline, teams will value him a lot because they get 3 playoff runs at a very team friendly price. It will have to be Schneider + 1st + something else. I could even see it being Schneider + Laf/Kakko + 1st.
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Feb. 26, 2022 at 7:28 p.m.
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I totally agree with this take. There was not a guarantee that Eichel would come back and play like a top player in the league and Vegas was willing to take that chance.

If Scheifele is available at the deadline, teams will value him a lot because they get 3 playoff runs at a very team friendly price. It will have to be Schneider + 1st + something else. I could even see it being Schneider + Laf/Kakko + 1st.


If it’s this TDL I could for sure see Laf + Schneider and a 1st. 3 cup runs is a lot, especially when he’s a 1C who will put up over a PPG in NY. Not to mention his very team friendly deal. Also gallant plays a perfect system for Scheifele. I think two top prospects and a 1st is super fair for a prime 1C with term on a friendly deal.
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