I’d think Sabres say no

Buffalo says no they're not trading Krebs

Yeah no

Different, yes. I'm not sure about doable. I think IF your proposal was for Thompson, you might get closer to a done deal.

Maybe.

i really hope this is a joke

You think Thompson for Nils is closer than Krebs for Nils? You are either very very high on Krebs or Nils, or incredibly down on Thompson.

Thompson is on pace for 36goals
That’s not happening either

Maybe Mittelstadt or Olofsson…. MAYBE

Actually the opposite? thompson is on pace for 30 plus goals and 60 plus points. how about laffy plus for thompson

Mittelstadt sure. Olofsson would be tough, but i would certainly do mittelstadt for a right d.

Mitts still has a high ceiling imo
He’s just been held back by injuries so we haven’t seen it much
It’s not like Lundkvist is a sure thing

I do enjoy the panic attacks on this site.

I'm actually high on Thompson; while people think a demotion to Hartford is a reason to be low on Lundkvist, it isn't. The Rangers actually have a solid ten defensemen, moving towards twelve. The depth on defense allows for deals; but, does not mean the receiving team is getting a dud in return.

Yeah, no panic attack, just a realist. Rangers aren’t getting Thompson equivalent, or frankly Krebs equivalent for Nils.

A realist? Not so much.

Anyway, don't worry. None of the precious are of the interest. Raging over ideas doesn't a realist, make.

It's more of a hockey trade though. We need right d in a big way, and mittelstadt doesn't do much for me, personally I don't see him as a center. I assume lundkvist isn't killing it either, it's just a hockey trade.

Raging 👌

Maybe Buffalo can trade Power for Kravtzov.

Just don’t want HockeyDanz from CF to feel ripped off

No way Buffalo does this, but I wish they would.

Nils is heating up in Hartford and is probably gonna be real good, I hate that we're probably gonna lose him for like Arturri Lehkonen or some **** just because we don't have room for him.

It's not like Mittelstadt is either. Injuries are a part in his poor play this year, but he also has a history of being physically weak, careless with the puck (ex. Buffalo vs St. Louis), at times lazy on defense , and inconsistent on offense. I wouldn't necessarily do a Lundkvist for Mittelstadt, but I'd at least look into it.

I didn’t say Mitts was a sure thing
But he does have a higher pedigree, and this a better chance at reaching his ceiling

Mitts came around last season as well
Played at a pace of 20goals & over 40points
Not that he was outstanding, but we could clearly see him progressing in the right direction once we got rid of awful Ralph Kruger & whatever the heck system he was trying to have us play

Here's the thing- a 20 goal/40 point pace is fine, it's certainly not great. Center is probably the most important position on the ice, you cover from one end of the rink to the other, and he is bad in his own end. Plus minus is obviously not a great Stat, but without a deep dive, mittelstadt is a guy that provides some offense (and honestly it's inconsistent too), and is a liability in his own end as a center. I'm not talking about catching a minus because you were on for an empty net, I'm talking about routinely giving up chances and goals in your own end, and not scoring enough to make up the difference. I think he ends up on the wing eventually.

You were correct Buffalo would say no, read below. Let's be clear here Buffalo has Thompson, Cozens, Mittelstadt, Krebs and Girgensons who can play center.
Buffalo has Jokiharju, Laaksonen who can play RHD.
Nils and Payton have similar ceilings, second line center v second pairing defenseman.
Nils is only 6 months older than Payton and Defensemen take longer to develop.
This is a hockey trade IMO which the Sabres are moving a player from a position in which they have depth to get a player who fills a need.
If I were Buffalo's GM, I would make this deal, or for Mittelstadt or for Olofsson, but not for Thompson.
For the past four years I have said it takes longer for big men to develop.
Now it appears has, he will not be traded for Nils one for one!

@Shakabakes VERY GOOD POST!

Well we have Cozens & Krebs & Thompson as well,
so someone has to end up on the wing
And young players- especially Centers- OFTEN have struggles in their own end & are inconsistent scorers.
This isn’t unexpected, it’s normal
I think you’re way too worried about his lack of defense

Also…. Ralph screwed up most of our players, even the Vets
Mitts looked A LOT better once he was fired
And producing at a 20goal/40+point pace was a good jump in production & development

I don’t see any reason why he can’t continue that development,
as long as he can get healthy

I am fine with olofsson or mitts, not krebs, dont forget we also have 2 late first round picks we could use on rhd that are similar to nils... or use our pick to get nemec. I think Krebs ceiling may be limited only by how the sabres use him. has the vision of a top line guy and is very smart. Also hard on pucks and difficult to play against which would make for a highly skilled checker. Krebs is playing now and is playing well for his age and situation. Nils is not a guaruntee

You know, I was already done with both faces of you. I think for the sake of keeping my food down, I am done with your portion of the f@&ks I'm willing to give.

Nite nite, Slugger.

Nothing like raging on a post the next day. Kisses to you and yours sweetie.

Since I spent some time sharing the video and scouting of Lundkvist with the scouts who were working him up (during my previous time as a liason for Central Registry, via the NHLPA's insurance provider), I think it's fair to say I can see the ceiling on him.

Let me also say, that the 2018 draft class has the potential to be on the level of 2003 and 2005's classes. Time will tell.

As an aside, I suspect that a Dahlin-Lundkvist pairing isn't just about pairing a couple of Swedish kids; it's about the potential of taking the pressure off what has been a clearly overwhelmed Dahlin. While I'm sure Owen Power will eventually do that, helping this very talented young man (Dahlin) get closer to a comfortable, consistent game ought to
be opportune to the Sabres.

Anyway, I'm not interested in a pissing match. I liked the original idea of Krebs, which I stated to the original author. I thought [Thompson], because a future move that's about cost-cutting (I.e. Strome being allowed to leave as a UFA, supplanted by someone like Thompson, so it was preemptive in theory) in its way.