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If we cant have Giroux

Created by: Pond_Duck
Team: 2021-22 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 17, 2022
Published: Mar. 17, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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COL
  1. Kane, Patrick ($5,025,000 retained)
CHI
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. Behrens, Sean [Reserve List]
  3. Kaut, Martin
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (COL)
  5. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$70,893,963$1,741,463$3,350,000$10,606,037
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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-$2,400,000-$2,400,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$1,075,000$1,075,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 6
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$2,050,000$2,050,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Mar. 17, 2022 at 1:12 p.m.
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Hawks very easily pass. Why do Avs fans think they can get Kane for the same or less than Giroux?
Mar. 17, 2022 at 1:18 p.m.
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Id stay far away from Kane. Hes pretty terrible defensively and the asking price is wayyyy to high
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 1:19 p.m.
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COL passes, not moving Barron and Behrens, after moving Helleson.. this would completely empty their system of any potential NHL D men prospects
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 1:22 p.m.
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
Id stay far away from Kane. Hes pretty terrible defensively and the asking price is wayyyy to high


Yeah a Conn Smyth winner that no one care if he play’s defense because he make your team win game. Any single team wiuld get better with the addition of Patrick Kane. EVERY single one, Colorado isn’t a exception.
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 1:23 p.m.
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Yeah a Conn Smyth winner that no one care if he play’s defense because he make your team win game. Any single team wiuld get better with the addition of Patrick Kane. EVERY single one, Colorado isn’t a exception.


I didnt say he would make the team worse. I said hes terrible defensively and the asking price is too high
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 1:24 p.m.
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Again, Kane isn't what the Avs need. They wouldn't be getting Giroux just for his point production although he can do that, it's also for his defensive and faceoff abilities.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 1:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Wadejos123
Hawks very easily pass. Why do Avs fans think they can get Kane for the same or less than Giroux?


CHI would be crazy to turn down this overpayment lol

Kaut could easily play in their bottom 6F today.
Barron will be NHL ready next season (on ELC money).
Behrens is a sure NHLer in 2-3 seasons (on ELC money).
plus a 1st and a 3rd

We are happy keeping our pieces and CHI can resign Kane for his glory days playing hockey at age 35+
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 1:34 p.m.
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If the Avs traded for Kane I’d have to find a new team to root for
Mar. 17, 2022 at 1:43 p.m.
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if avs can't get giroux i hope they just go for depth scoring.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 1:59 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
CHI would be crazy to turn down this overpayment lol

Kaut could easily play in their bottom 6F today.
Barron will be NHL ready next season (on ELC money).
Behrens is a sure NHLer in 2-3 seasons (on ELC money).
plus a 1st and a 3rd

We are happy keeping our pieces and CHI can resign Kane for his glory days playing hockey at age 35+


Or they can go to a team like the rangers where AF or Kappo would be in play. But bottom line, it's Kane's call not the Hawks.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 2:11 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Or they can go to a team like the rangers where AF or Kappo would be in play. But bottom line, it's Kane's call not the Hawks.


Did you say go to NYR where AF (Adam Fox) would be in play? for Kane? Surely you arent clueless enough to think NYR would deal Adam Fox for Kane right?
Mar. 17, 2022 at 2:19 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
Did you say go to NYR where AF (Adam Fox) would be in play? for Kane? Surely you arent clueless enough to think NYR would deal Adam Fox for Kane right?


Calm down clown, Alexis Lafreniere not Adam Fox
Mar. 17, 2022 at 2:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Wadejos123
Hawks very easily pass. Why do Avs fans think they can get Kane for the same or less than Giroux?


Because Kane wants to win
Mar. 17, 2022 at 2:27 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Calm down clown, Alexis Lafreniere not Adam Fox


Clown? settle down kiddo, you clearly wrote AF not AL or ALF?
Mar. 17, 2022 at 3:17 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
Clown? settle down kiddo, you clearly wrote AF not AL or ALF?


Kiddo? LMAO I'm probably older then you! I've seen NYR fans referring to him as such or LAF with the "la" part of his last name not the emphasis versus Freniere in the french language. Nonetheless, I probably should have said LAF and you probably should have just asked then to suggest someone is "clueless" because you didn't know the intent of what was stated.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 3:29 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Kiddo? LMAO I'm probably older then you! I've seen NYR fans referring to him as such or LAF with the "la" part of his last name not the emphasis versus Freniere in the french language. Nonetheless, I probably should have said LAF and you probably should have just asked then to suggest someone is "clueless" because you didn't know the intent of what was stated.


Im glad we agree you should have said LAF instead of AF, apology accepted
Mar. 17, 2022 at 3:39 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
CHI would be crazy to turn down this overpayment lol

Kaut could easily play in their bottom 6F today.
Barron will be NHL ready next season (on ELC money).
Behrens is a sure NHLer in 2-3 seasons (on ELC money).
plus a 1st and a 3rd

We are happy keeping our pieces and CHI can resign Kane for his glory days playing hockey at age 35+


Kaut is a bust, 1st is going to be very very late. I do kinda like Barron but not enough here overall to get it done
Mar. 17, 2022 at 3:40 p.m.
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Quoting: earl08
Because Kane wants to win


That makes no sense lmao, all we've heard from him was that he wants to retire a blackhawk. Avs have a couple good regular seasons and their fans get cocky huh? Hawks won three cups while the avs spend a decade being irrelivant
Mar. 17, 2022 at 3:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Wadejos123
Kaut is a bust, 1st is going to be very very late. I do kinda like Barron but not enough here overall to get it done


Id say Kaut needs 20 games at a 3rd line wing role before 100% labeling a bust.
Hasnt produced when called up because COL is playing meaningful hockey games and hes getting sheltered 7-8mins TOI when he plays.

When you say not enough to get it done. What is CHI intending on doing with Kane? He'll be 34 at the start of next year, pending UFA making 10.5mil, not playing for a playoff contending team, whats the goal here? hold onto him, resign him till age 38-39, not make the playoffs and hope his performance doesnt drop sooner than expected?
Mar. 17, 2022 at 3:57 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
Im glad we agree you should have said LAF instead of AF, apology accepted


I'm glad you agree you should have just asked instead of assume someone especially that is a vet here is "clueless" apology accepted kiddo
Mar. 17, 2022 at 4:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Wadejos123
That makes no sense lmao, all we've heard from him was that he wants to retire a blackhawk. Avs have a couple good regular seasons and their fans get cocky huh? Hawks won three cups while the avs spend a decade being irrelivant


Patty Kane would be a really great addition to the Avs core group.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 4:45 p.m.
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
Id stay far away from Kane. Hes pretty terrible defensively and the asking price is wayyyy to high


He was never meant to be that even in his draft year
Mar. 17, 2022 at 4:49 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
He was never meant to be that even in his draft year


Regardless of what he was meant to be COL should not be interested in paying anywhere near this much for an offensive forward with 0 defensive skills
Mar. 17, 2022 at 5:10 p.m.
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
Regardless of what he was meant to be COL should not be interested in paying anywhere near this much for an offensive forward with 0 defensive skills


McDavid isn’t good defensively yet you here no one complain about that in his game
Mar. 17, 2022 at 5:21 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
McDavid isn’t good defensively yet you here no one complain about that in his game


McDavid is better defensively than Kane and also provides more offense

And tons of people complained about McDavid's defense. Thats pretty much his only critique, but for the past 2 seasons hes been a lot better at it than his first few seasons
 
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