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Brotherly Pucks Idea

Created by: JacksonPHI
Team: 2022-23 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 11, 2022
Published: Apr. 11, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Flyers blog Brotherly Puck recently published an article giving their concept of an aggressive overhaul that is “fantasy but within the realm of possibility” and the caliber of moves Philadelphia needs to make.

Here it is.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$9,000,000
1$1,000,000
2$4,000,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (BOS)
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Hayes, Kevin
2.
PHI
    Future Considerations
    ARI
    1. van Riemsdyk, James
    2. 2022 2nd round pick (BOS)
    3. 2023 3rd round pick (BOS)
    3.
    PHI
    1. DeBrincat, Alex
    2. Strome, Dylan [RFA Rights]
    CHI
    1. Desnoyers, Elliot
    2. Lindblom, Oskar
    3. Tuomaala, Samu
    4. 2022 1st round pick (PHI)
    5. 2024 1st round pick (PHI)
    4.
    PHI
    1. Larkin, Dylan
    DET
    1. Frost, Morgan [RFA Rights]
    2. Konecny, Travis
    3. Sanheim, Travis
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2022
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    Logo of the PHI
    Logo of the PHI
    Logo of the PHI
    2023
    Logo of the PHI
    Logo of the PHI
    Logo of the FLA
    Logo of the NYR
    Logo of the PHI
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the PHI
    Logo of the PHI
    Logo of the PHI
    2024
    Logo of the FLA
    Logo of the PHI
    Logo of the PHI
    Logo of the PHI
    Logo of the PHI
    Logo of the PHI
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$82,500,000$77,111,500$295,000$725,000$5,388,500
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Gaudreau, Johnny
    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    LW
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    Larkin, Dylan
    $6,100,000$6,100,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
    DeBrincat, Alex
    $6,400,000$6,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    Farabee, Joel
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    Couturier, Sean
    $7,750,000$7,750,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    Atkinson, Cam
    $5,875,000$5,875,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    Laughton, Scott
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 4
    Strome, Dylan
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    Allison, Wade
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    MacEwen, Zack
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    Tippett, Owen
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    Laczynski, Tanner
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    Provorov, Ivan
    $4,725,000$4,725,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    Ellis, Ryan
    $6,250,000$6,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    Hart, Carter
    $3,979,000$3,979,000
    G
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    York, Cam
    $880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$725,000$725K)
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    Ristolainen, Rasmus
    $5,100,000$5,100,000
    RD
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    Zamula, Yegor
    $756,667$756,667
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    Manson, Josh
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    Sandström, Felix
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2

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    Apr. 11, 2022 at 5:23 p.m.
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    Wadejos123
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    Hard pass by the hawks. I get that 1st will be pretty high but it's still not enough, especially for strome too
    Apr. 11, 2022 at 5:25 p.m.
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    GMloof
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    Chicago is not considering that... you will most likely have to add an asset from the Detroit trade for Chicago to even consider trading away Debrincat and Strome
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    Apr. 11, 2022 at 5:29 p.m.
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    laugh laugh Sanheim+Konecny+Frost is nowhere near close to getting Larkin especially if an extension is involved you would need to add 2 1st on top of it. Larkin isn't available and that doesn't get him.
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    Apr. 11, 2022 at 5:31 p.m.
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    Both Chicago and Detroit hard pass, Both trades are bad for both teams.
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    Apr. 11, 2022 at 5:34 p.m.
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    Bruins wouldn't take that trade if they were getting a 2nd and 3rd with Hayes
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    Apr. 11, 2022 at 5:44 p.m.
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    No one is taking Hayes.
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    Apr. 11, 2022 at 5:45 p.m.
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    I don't see how Gaudreau signs as UFA for a dollar less than Tavares got, so that is an issue right there. Should probably project 80/8 for cgy and 77/7 for anyone else
    Apr. 11, 2022 at 5:51 p.m.
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    Red Wings decline.
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    Apr. 11, 2022 at 6:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: Wadejos123
    Hard pass by the hawks. I get that 1st will be pretty high but it's still not enough, especially for strome too


    Completely agree. I would say add in another 1st and maybe a mid pick (3-5) and that could possibly get it done.
    Apr. 11, 2022 at 6:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: Random2152
    I don't see how Gaudreau signs as UFA for a dollar less than Tavares got, so that is an issue right there. Should probably project 80/8 for cgy and 77/7 for anyone else


    I personally don’t think he signs for any less than $10M
    Apr. 11, 2022 at 6:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    No one is taking Hayes.


    I could only see it if Philly either retains salary or adds in compensation (2nd + 5th maybe?)
    Apr. 11, 2022 at 6:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: Random2152
    I don't see how Gaudreau signs as UFA for a dollar less than Tavares got, so that is an issue right there. Should probably project 80/8 for cgy and 77/7 for anyone else


    Totally agree, 80/8 from Calgary and 77/7 elsewhere he's on pace for his best season yet.
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    Apr. 11, 2022 at 6:26 p.m.
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    Yeah that Detroit trade is a bit rough for Detroit.
    Apr. 11, 2022 at 6:34 p.m.
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    Travis Konecny has 3 years left until UFA, Travis Sanheim is a UFA in the summer of 2023 no guarantees he'd resign back with Detroit. And Morgan Frost was basically considered a bust at one time. Not enough for Dylan Larkin especially knowing that it comes with an extension this coming summer need to add 2 1st round picks on top and Yzerman still probably declines.
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    Apr. 11, 2022 at 6:43 p.m.
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    Quoting: PHILLYSZN
    Completely agree. I would say add in another 1st and maybe a mid pick (3-5) and that could possibly get it done.


    Nah. I mean isn't philly rebuilding? why would you even want cat. Hawks would want some package of york/brink+2022 1st+ for debrincat alone. Then adding another 1st+ for strome. Just makes zero sense for philly
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    Apr. 11, 2022 at 6:51 p.m.
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    Larkin isn't available.
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    Apr. 11, 2022 at 7:28 p.m.
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    Quoting: PHILLYSZN
    I could only see it if Philly either retains salary or adds in compensation (2nd + 5th maybe?)


    Try both.
    Apr. 11, 2022 at 11:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: Wadejos123
    Nah. I mean isn't philly rebuilding? why would you even want cat. Hawks would want some package of york/brink+2022 1st+ for debrincat alone. Then adding another 1st+ for strome. Just makes zero sense for philly


    The plan is to “aggressively retool”
    Apr. 11, 2022 at 11:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: Random2152
    I don't see how Gaudreau signs as UFA for a dollar less than Tavares got, so that is an issue right there. Should probably project 80/8 for cgy and 77/7 for anyone else


    Prepare to be surprised.
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    Apr. 11, 2022 at 11:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: PHILLYSZN
    I personally don’t think he signs for any less than $10M


    Here's the problem in a low cap NHL. There are only two teams that would be attractive to Gaudreau can offer anywhere close to 10m. Jersey and Philly. Are there any other teams that would be in a bidding war for Gaudreau?
    Apr. 11, 2022 at 11:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: Random2152
    I don't see how Gaudreau signs as UFA for a dollar less than Tavares got, so that is an issue right there. Should probably project 80/8 for cgy and 77/7 for anyone else


    Pre Covid, the NHL announced they expected the cap to be 86m in 20/21. Therefor the expectation would 90m in 21/22 and 94m in 22/23. The cap is 82.5m in 22/23. Pre Covid signings seem bloated now
    And now RFAs are getting close to UFA money. There just isn't the competition for high priced UFAs What teams have cap to sign a 10m player....only a few non playoff teams.
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    Jul. 13, 2022 at 7:15 p.m.
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    Prepare to be surprised.


    Well, he got less, but it was a known discount as its confirmed Columbus offered 7@12

    So call it a draw?
     
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