Minnesota doesn't seem to be getting anything they want or need in that deal. Seems like a collection of spare parts that Ottawa is more than happy to give away, all things considered.

Wild decline. Too much quantity, too little quality. A high first round pick was the starter a few months back but now Fiala has gone on a tear

Just my thoughts, but:
-I think you're probably close on the Fiala trade (Probably a bit of tinkering...not sure how high anyone is on Branny at this point...)
-I feel like the contracts are all pretty close to spot on, though 4 x $7.6 seems a tad high on Giroux...that being said, it's to come to Canada and enjoy our excellent health care while paying out of our butts tax-wise...an overpay is likely, so you're probably close.
-I think this is an excellent example of how to improve the Sens and have them take the next step.
-Big 'ol Mehhhhh to Zaitsev. Probably fine if it's after the bonus is paid out on July 1st...

...But...

-Dorion saying that they're not spending to the cap is a pretty ominous sign that they won't be going crazy adding money. If he's going to shed Zaitsev, it's to dump payroll, meaning that the likelihood of them saying "Yeah, let's wait until after we dump $2 mil into this pylon's pockets so that the pick that we send is lower" seems unlikely. I'd be pretty surprised if it only took a future 2nd to do it, with a lot more high-cap, low dollar contracts out there that could be picked up as a dump.
-With Dorion saying "We're not spending to the cap" there's a large part of me that takes it as "it's far more likely that we're at around $70 mil than at $80 mil", which in this scenario would likely mean one or the other of Fiala or Giroux. I just don't think he says that (What a dumb P.R. move ya dummies!) to turn around and be like "Yeah, but we'll come within a couple of mil of it!"

End of the day, who really know with this organization. Cheers on a good job though!

Yeah, Connor Brown at $1.8 mil would be a solid add, IMO. I think the prospect needs to be higher end though, or a 2nd changes to a 1st...you're right that it's quantity over quality though.

I think you are pretty much bang on in all of those contracts. I might only do 3 years on Giroux but if 4 is what it takes to get the deal done, I'd be ok with it.

My only worry in getting both is that the following year Stutzle, Zub and Pinto are going to be up for new contracts, probably looking at an increase of roughly $11M, 7 for Tim, 2 for Zub and 2 for Pinto (I am assuming he'll sign a bridge as he's been injured). Only Hammer's 3M and Delzotto's 2M are coming off the books of any value (Holden is there for 1.3 but will need a replacement for him).

The only way it would work is if they found a way to get out from Murray that would give you total of 6.25 + 3 + 2 = 11.25 with the same buffer in cap space 4.3M (add 1M to take into account a slight increase in the overall salary cap).

Overall I'd be more then happy if they were able to do that and I'd put this line up against any in the league. The scoring across the top 2, speed of the 3rd and grit of that 4th line. Defence has some inexperience but Thomson looked good in his audition and Sanderson should hit the ground running.

I don't think Minny does this (Branny isn't a value piece and they wouldn't want him), but I think people are really understating how far getting a top 6 forward at 1.8mil goes for Minny next year. Can be a huge surplus cap value piece on a cap strapped team, and could bring a big return if they're out of the hunt by deadline time. If Fiala does get moved to Ottawa (which isn't happening imo, he's staying) I would expect Connor Brown is pretty likely part of that deal.

So what is the price now?
“A high 1st round pick” would not be enough?

Where's the top six forward we're getting? Brown, playing 20 minutes a night in Ottawa with all that talent, managed to score at almost a 50 point pace. He's about as much a top 6 forward as Frederick Gaudreau, and to be frank, I don't really like Gaudreau as our 2C long term. Not to mention Brown only has 1 season before he's due a raise we can't give him, so he's purely a rental in any capacity.

I mean it's fine if he's a secondary piece, he's a fine secondary piece, but Minnesota should be getting one piece, whether a prospect or pick, that they really want, and is a long term asset. And honestly, outside of Ottawa's 1st this year, I don't think they have one of those that they'd be willing to trade.

MN's FWD roster is pretty much already set. Fiala and D-Lo are the only FWDs on the Playoff roster that don't have contracts for next year. Rossi could/should make the roster as a ELC, and Dewar/Bjugstad should be cheap 12/13 FWDs.

Brown for $1.8m is a nice deal, yes, but he doesn't really fit well anywhere. Brannstrom run into the same thing for the Wild d-corps.

Brown has been a 20 goal, 50 point pace guy in Ottawa and his most common linemates in that time were Tierney and Paul. He gets like 60% defensive starts and no PP1 time. I'm not saying you're wrong not to like this deal, but Connor Brown is as top 6 forward.

Cant see the wild being remotely interested. Im sure theyll rather try to figure out how to sign him instead too

Honest question for Sens fans - do you see an opportunity for a playoff spot next year? Top 8 in the east is still stacked

boston might blow up the roster if early exit from the playoffs than who knows about next season?

ya i agree they will try to keep Fiala but they will have to move a couple pieces to make that happen..there cap situation is a bit tight for next couple yrs with those heavy buyouts in effect

they have ridley greig JBD thomson and brammstrom that they can offer as term of high end prospects

Boston Washington and Pitt are fading. CBJ is kinda in limbo. NYI Ott and Buffalo are really the only ones that could force a change in the division

Not on a contending team he isn't.

None of those are high end prospects. Greig is the best of the bunch and he's a B/B- guy.

If Ottawa gets a 3 year deal with Giroux they shouldn't add Fiala, and I say that without even considering what would be going back the other way - it's purely from a cap perspective.
Unless we're buying out Murray this has us in serious trouble the next season and some other GM might come at Stützle with an offer sheet. I sure as hell would.

Shouldn't be a problem for Minny next year

Classy.

I don't see Boston fading or blowing up their roster - the offense is weak but they have a top 3 d core and 2 above average goalies who are relatively young. Not to mention blowing it up doesn't really fit with the organizational culture. Washington and Pitt could slip but its tough to imagine an upgraded Ottawa team surpassing with NYI, DET, BUF all pushing as well. Obviously should always try to be as good as possible but I don't think OTT is in a position to trade away futures as by the time they're competing for a cup, they'll need these second round picks contributing in the lineup

Just my opinion though

Would have to upgrade 2022 2nd round pick (OTT) to 2023 1st round pick (OTT) with no protection

1st, Brown, Brannstrom, 2nd

That's three 1sts and a 2nd value.



lol no

There's no chance that any GM of any team trades a 2023 first rounder unprotected with Bedard coming. Especially a team who finished in the bottom 10 for the last 5 years.