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What young RHD could MTL get for this package

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Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 1, 2022
Published: Jun. 1, 2022
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Please don’t troll I’m just genuinely curious. I know this return won’t get you a Makar but i’m curious if this base package could be sufficient to get a young offensive RHD who could maybe be a future top pairing guy for this squad.
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    Return needs to be a young offensive RHD who could MAYBE be a future top pairing guy (obviously not Makar level lmao) that could be part of the solution for MTL at defense for years to come. MTL could add more (in picks most likely) if necessary, this is just a base package.
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    1. Gallagher, Brendan
    2. Romanov, Alexander [RFA Rights]
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    Team B would be getting a young LHD mobile defender with definite top 4 upside who is already a proven NHLer who can play big minutes + a gritty top 6 winger/leader/proven analytical darling (under the right system though, as he didn’t fit under MSL) who has scored 30 goals multiple times and who isn’t that old/overpaid what what he provides.
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    Jun. 1, 2022 at 1:36 p.m.
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    You might have to give up Romanov++ to get a team to take Gallagher at this point
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    Jun. 1, 2022 at 1:38 p.m.
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    Quoting: Salzy
    You might have to give up Romanov++ to get a team to take Gallagher at this point


    I promise you that Gallagher won’t fetch negative value in a trade. GMs still value players like him
    Jun. 1, 2022 at 1:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: DriveFor25
    I promise you that Gallagher won’t fetch negative value in a trade. GMs still value players like him


    Whatever helps you sleep at night tears of joy

    Gallagher is arguably the biggest negative value in the league right now
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    Jun. 1, 2022 at 1:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: DriveFor25
    I promise you that Gallagher won’t fetch negative value in a trade. GMs still value players like him


    wishful thinking
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    Jun. 1, 2022 at 1:40 p.m.
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    No trade is possible if you include 6.25m X 5 years for a declining 30 years old Gallagher. Teams just don't have the cap to acquire him and certainly don't want that contract.
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    Jun. 1, 2022 at 1:40 p.m.
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    The biggest issue with Gallagher is that he also wasn't doing anything under Ducharme's system either - he's put up 23-30-53 in 113 games between the regular season and playoffs this year and last. It becomes less of a "can he do it in a different system" and more of a "is this 5'9" forward starting to decline as he hits 30?"

    I think you have to wait until next season before you can even think of asking Gallagher to waive his NTC. You need to show the rest of the league he can still play before someone's going to want to make a move for him and that contract.
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    Jun. 1, 2022 at 1:44 p.m.
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    If the habs trade Romanov in a deal with negative value Gally, we riot.
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    Jun. 1, 2022 at 1:55 p.m.
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    I've got to agree with the consensus: it would be very difficult to obtain anything of value if Gallagher is involved in the package. He's put in some honest work over the years, but he definitely has and is regressing. If he's not getting the greasy goals in the crease, the puck simply dies on his stick.

    If he's the guy in the package, you'll have to wait and hope he outperforms his contract this season before expecting anything substantial in return. Otherwise, maybe consider swapping him for another skater.

    Final note: there are a lot of quality RHD's available in the draft (mid first round through the second). Teams are going to score some talented kids in that range (think Luneau, Warren, Lamoureux, Nelson, Hutson, and even Spacek etc...) so you potentially don't have to sacrifice Romanov.
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    Jun. 1, 2022 at 2:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: Salzy
    Whatever helps you sleep at night tears of joy

    Gallagher is arguably the biggest negative value in the league right now


    I'd say that Price is the worst value right now if he don't retire. But yes lol Gallagher not far after
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    Jun. 1, 2022 at 2:10 p.m.
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    Quoting: mastersp4
    I'd say that Price is the worst value right now if he don't retire. But yes lol Gallagher not far after


    At least when Price plays hes good tears of joy

    Gallagher is pretty much Lucic at this point but without the size that makes Lucic serviceable
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    Jun. 1, 2022 at 2:11 p.m.
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    Quoting: Salzy
    At least when Price plays hes good tears of joy

    Gallagher is pretty much Lucic at this point but without the size that makes Lucic serviceable


    Bergevin really putted us in a ****ty position with his last summer
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    Jun. 1, 2022 at 2:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: mastersp4
    Bergevin really putted us in a ****ty position with his last summer


    At least Hughes has some hope around him, Gallagher being owed 8M and 9M the next two season respectively makes him undoubtedly the worst value in the league by a mile in my opinion
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    Jun. 1, 2022 at 2:21 p.m.
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    I would do that for Nikita Zaitsev and Colin White

    But it depends, is Romanov good on RD?
    Jun. 1, 2022 at 2:28 p.m.
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    Quoting: Salzy
    Whatever helps you sleep at night tears of joy

    Gallagher is arguably the biggest negative value in the league right now


    While I think the OPs proposal is bad, Habs fans were right on Toffoli, Chiarot and Lehkonen. Habs fans were the only ones saying that they would get a return similar to what they got while other fans said they would be worth nothing.

    So again, OPs proposal is bad, but Habs fan have been right more than wrong when it comes to trade values
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    Jun. 1, 2022 at 2:30 p.m.
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    Quoting: Lochness1202
    While I think the OPs proposal is bad, Habs fans were right on Toffoli, Chiarot and Lehkonen. Habs fans were the only ones saying that they would get a return similar to what they got while other fans said they would be worth nothing.

    So again, OPs proposal is bad, but Habs fan have been right more than wrong when it comes to trade values


    Gallagher is owed 17M the next two seasons, if MTLs GM can get any positive value out of that put him in the HOF immediately
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    Jun. 1, 2022 at 10:43 p.m.
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    Quoting: Salzy
    Gallagher is owed 17M the next two seasons, if MTLs GM can get any positive value out of that put him in the HOF immediately


    Im just saying Habs fans were right and everyone else (mostly) was wrong about the last 3 trades involving the habs. So before you go off on hand fsns, remember that they are the ones who were bang on.
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    Jun. 1, 2022 at 11:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: Lochness1202
    Im just saying Habs fans were right and everyone else (mostly) was wrong about the last 3 trades involving the habs. So before you go off on hand fsns, remember that they are the ones who were bang on.


    The big difference is those players you mentioned were moved at the deadline.
    Jun. 2, 2022 at 7:19 a.m.
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    Quoting: JwillNYR82
    The big difference is those players you mentioned were moved at the deadline.

    Right, but even before they were moved Hab fans were right. So if Gallagher gets moved, Habs fans have had better track record in estimating return than others.

    We are obviously talking about the scene where he does get traded as we were doing with chiarot Toffoli and Lehkonen
    Jun. 2, 2022 at 1:11 p.m.
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    Quoting: Lochness1202
    Im just saying Habs fans were right and everyone else (mostly) was wrong about the last 3 trades involving the habs. So before you go off on hand fsns, remember that they are the ones who were bang on.


    The difference was Chariot was no team should pay a first plus for him, everyone knew it was going to happen

    I didn’t see anyone other than a few here and there wrong about Lehk and Toffoli

    And Gallaghers contract puts him in another conversation than anyone of those so trying to compare them doesn’t really make much sense. Other than them being on MTL there are virtually no similarities to any of those players
    Jun. 2, 2022 at 1:36 p.m.
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    The difference was Chariot was no team should pay a first plus for him, everyone knew it was going to happen

    I didn’t see anyone other than a few here and there wrong about Lehk and Toffoli

    And Gallaghers contract puts him in another conversation than anyone of those so trying to compare them doesn’t really make much sense. Other than them being on MTL there are virtually no similarities to any of those players


    That first part about chiarot is 100% false. The argument wasn’t whether teams should pay a 1st….even Habs fans knew that would be an overpay!!!
    It was 100% absolutely based on IF teams would pay that…

    Barely anyone from another team said chiarot would get a 1st.
    Jun. 2, 2022 at 1:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: Lochness1202
    That first part about chiarot is 100% false. The argument wasn’t whether teams should pay a 1st….even Habs fans knew that would be an overpay!!!
    It was 100% absolutely based on IF teams would pay that…

    Barely anyone from another team said chiarot would get a 1st.


    We must have been on different websites then cause almost every post I saw was “what GM is going to be dumb enough to pay a first”
    Jun. 2, 2022 at 5:32 p.m.
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    Quoting: Salzy
    We must have been on different websites then cause almost every post I saw was “what GM is going to be dumb enough to pay a first”


    Literally everyone was saying no chance habs get a first for chiarot, except Habs fans. Literally everyone was saying that…I can’t understand how you didn’t see that. Like literally everyone was making fun of Habs fans for believing they would get a 1st for chiarot. And look what happened
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