Columbus getting shafted hard here

Correct me if am wrong the Colombus pick is the #12 Right? (Or it's the #6)

Because a pick number #12 for a good two-way center with around 40 to 50 pts and the #26 pick is a good thing.

Center always have good value but if the pick is the #6 I agree with you it's not enough for CLB. Maybe there would need to be add from MTL like a mid prospect (ex:Struble) or maybe a roster player like Drouin or Armia to help Colombus to compete?


But I have a question why is there so much trade rumor base on the same source (twitter) but it's not the same deal ?

this twitter hockey analysts claims he heard rumblings of early stages of a big a three way trade with picks getting moved

Poor CBus

Columbus doesn't need forward depth right now. They have one of the deepest groups there is in the NHL. Trading for a lower pick and another depth forward doesn't help them now or in the future so they would be better served by holding on to the 12th OA. If they're moving either pick it will be part of a package to either get Cooley in the draft or an established, young 1C.

This twitter rumor (like many others posted on here) brought to you by a delusional Habs fan............

12 for a 26 and a cap dump (good player, but obviously not fitting in in MTL)
MTL clears over $14mil in cap space and gets the #2 to go with #1
Jersey gets to pray that Petry returns to form and Anderson stays off the shelf

Personally I would keep Dvorak for the moment don't know why he's so much in priority to be trade for some. It's not that he got a big contract or don't do thing.

I think that as a second center this season he could buy time for the young (If we select Wright or Cooley) to don't rush them. Let's them play more freely as third center or in AHL .

My priority as MTL GM would be Weber contract, Petry (Situation not the player can be a cancer) Hoffman, Armia

Drouin I could keep him and trade at deadline to some asset for next year draft. Even if he injure is contract end this season so no big deal with him.

Dvorak was just traded last year for this years #27?

I don't think #26 and #27 are worth #12. I don't think Dvorak improved his value either. Columbus also doesn't need mediocre centers, they need their young centers to develop or centers better now and in the future than the ones they have.

That's the problem with including Dvorak, or any other Habs long term contract. They're not bad players, they're just bad together. Most of that team has really hurt they're value at this point, which is why teams won't pay top value for them. Personally. I wanted Dvorak on the Leafs before the Habs trade was made, but now I wouldn't be willing to invest a lot to take the chance.

Yeah but at the moment of the trade we didn't know that the first round would be #27. Pretty sure Arizona was hoping MTL didn't do the series and pick more around 12 to 15 not having a top 10 protected pick.

Also Dvorak is not mediocre like you say. While he may not be a #1 center he could be a good defensive #2 or #3. He still got 33 pts over 56 game with how MTL have been scrap this season. The game he have play under Martin St-Louis have been good like 17 pts in 25 game I think. That decent for a center at 3 year 4.5m contract.

It makes zero sense for Columbus.

In the summer, the Coyotes got a pick that was likely projected to be late in the round, and a 2024 2nd for Dvorak. They only got that because of a very unique circumstance where the Canadiens needed a C due to the Kotkaniemi offer sheet. They were shopping him for quite a while before that, and no one met their price. Additionally, he has done nothing to increase his value this season.

A late 1st, and a second two years from now (basically a 3rd) does not get someone up from 26 to 6.

Because of the way this draft is talked about, if New Jersey doesn't see a big difference between the 2nd best prospect and the 6th best, maybe this trade makes sense. They get a top 6 power forward with term, and a 3rd round pick, for moving down 3 spots. They also get Petry, but I am skeptical about whether that is going to be a good thing. He is almost 35 years old, and is signed until he is almost 38.

With all that said, this trade seems like a fan fiction written by a Canadiens fan that is supposed to show how the Canadiens can get the 2nd round pick while getting rid of a punch of players with term who their fans don't even want or value anymore. The Columbus portion is completely unrealistic. The New Jersey portion is only realistic if they have a very specific view of the top 6 prospects that makes all the stuff they are getting to trade down basically free. Historically, it is very unlikely for a team to see no difference between the 2nd overall and 6th overall, but I guess it's possible.

Ohh cool, one of these 'Habs fanboy' trades again..... Do you really think trading 2 cap dumps with minimal salary retention and 12OA will get you to 2OA????? Why would Columbus want to take on close to $10M in cap space for two players who are underperforming?