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did you forget to add the center piece to the robertson trade? because it's missing the center piece

Gonna need to throw in one of our best players to get this done - robertson is 23 and had 80 pts last year. Cozens, JPP and a first or something along those lines

Why exactly are we trading Asplund???

Would think Robertson comes in at 2M more than that.

Robertson is not a $10M player.

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He is over an 8 year deal in buffalo:
Buying out years of UFA is costly under normal circumstances - its even further amplified given the recent news about the cap being expected to rise significantly.
It’s even more expensive when you factor in the difference between state tax in NY vs the no state tax in Texas.
It’s even more expensive when you factor in that….it’s Buffalo. Guys don’t want to be there unless they’re paid at the very top of the market.
Was Skinner a $9M player? Of course not
Was Eichel a $10M player when he signed? I don’t think so
Was Tage Thompson a $7M player? Of course not.

There’s definitely a buffalo tax involved here.

Not even in the ballpark for Jason Robertson, And try closer to 8x9 to sign him.

Patrick Kane will get 7.5 x 3-4 years, You're still a tad low on both term and AAV.

sabres fans spent a year making fun of other people’s ****ty eichel trade packages only to turn around and offer even worse deals for robertson. honestly it’s hilarious

Why are they trading Asplund and Murray for nothing

Dallas trade is close

he’s at least worth 9 if not 9.5 on an 8 year term, i don’t see why he’d take less than that. i could see him demanding 10 if he’s in buffalo.

Debrincat got 2 1sts and a 3rd. This trade is 2 1sts a 2nd and an NHL center

and tkachuk got huberdeau, weegar, a 1st and a prospect, which is like 5 1sts and a 3rd. robo’s PPG progression is better than debrincat’s. at least one of quinn/cozens/krebs/savoie has to be in there if not two. i get not wanting to include power but mittelstadt and rosen aren’t anywhere near good enough.

Eichel was a franchise player and captain
Skinner was coming off a 40g season, similar to Robertson
Thompson is a center coming off a 36g year

All the values are fine, the 1st 2 were also signed by Botterill, who just wasnt a good gm. There is no Buffalo tax. And if there was, its pretty clear Buffalo is loaded with talent, im sure it would nonexistent at this point anyway

Debrincat and Robertson are directly comparable. Tkachuk isnt. Also Huberdeau and Weeger were only available because Florida didnt want to pay them. Also you have 0 idea who Rosen is

they’re all comparable, robo and tkachuk are both RFAs while debrincat had a year left, and they’re about the same age with similar stats (robo and debrincat’s last two seasons are virtually identical, tkachuk’s year this year was significantly better but his 2020-21 was significantly worse).

regardless, the sabres need to pony up a better prospect if they want to get robertson. the pick given up for debrincat was 7OA. mittelstadt and rosen are not 7OA caliber prospects or players and with robertson i’m sure that pick will end up being more 15 than 7

Well which is it, was it a bad GM or were the contracts fine?
Eichel was good, but he hadn’t cracked 60 points when he signed the deal, nor had he had a point per game season. An 8x10 was a bit weird, and certainly a buffalo tax.
Everyone knew the skinner deal was an overpay the second it was signed. Sure, he had a 40 goal 63 point season, but prior he also had a lot of 20-something goal seasons, and his career high for points was 63. Does that scream a player that should take up 11.32% of the cap? If so, why doesn’t it indicate the same for Robertson?

It’s the reason that it was so important in the eichel trade to get a guy like tuch that had term. Because it usually cost above market value to get someone to stick around in buffalo beyond their RFA years.

This isn’t about the team, it’s about the city. Nothing personal against buffalo, but it’s just not the place that guys making $5M+ a year want to live. I’ve always enjoyed going to buffalo, but if I’m taking home $5M+ after taxes, I want to live either in a major city like chicago, New York, toronto or boston, or some place nice and warm like florida, California, nashville, Raleigh, dallas etc.

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They wanted Tuch for the plqyer he was and his ties to the team. Eichel was, again, the franchise #1 center, didnt matter how many points he had

If he’s signing good contracts wouldn’t he be a good GM?

So GMs sign players to terms based on what they mean to the franchise rather than their performance? That seems like a very strange way to do things. Or is it possible perhaps that the team had to pay more than what his performance would dictate he should be paid, because of how important he was to the franchise, and how difficult it is for the Sabres to retain players beyond their RFA years? That seems like a normal way to do things.

Debrincat : 1 year left @ 6.4 mill, can take a 1 year QO to UFA

Robertson: 5 RFA years left , also a better player than Debrincat

Debrincat is rfa too theyre a year apart. Debrincat has been scoring at an elite level his 5 year career, Robertson did it once, and again theyre near the same age

There’s a significant difference between being an RFA with arbitration rights and no arbitration rights. Debrincat can walk after next season if he chooses to, Robertson has minimum 5 years left of control.

Robertson has done it 2x. He’s a 1 1/2 years younger than Debrincat.