Forums/Armchair-GM

Idea

Created by: capsfan2121
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 13, 2022
Published: Oct. 13, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Washington Capitals
Description
How much is added to the trade
Trades
WSH
  1. Girard, Samuel
COL
  1. Orlov, Dmitry
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2023
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
2024
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
2025
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$80,360,834$100,000$82,500$2,139,166
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Ovechkin, Alex
$9,500,000
LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Kuznetsov, Evgeny
$7,800,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Brown, Connor
$3,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Mantha, Anthony
$5,700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Strome, Dylan
$3,500,000
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Protas, Aliaksei
$789,167
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Johansson, Marcus
$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Eller, Lars
$3,500,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Oshie, T.J.
$5,750,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Sheary, Conor
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Dowd, Nic
$1,300,000
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Hathaway, Garnet
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Fehérváry, Martin
$791,667
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Carlson, John
$8,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Kuemper, Darcy
$5,250,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
Girard, Samuel
$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Jensen, Nick
$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Lindgren, Charlie
$1,100,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Gustafsson, Erik
$800,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
van Riemsdyk, Trevor
$950,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Irwin, Matt
$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Wilson, Tom
$5,166,667
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Bäckström, Nicklas
$9,200,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Washington Capitals
McMichael, Connor
$863,333
LW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Hagelin, Carl
$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Snively, Joe
$800,000
LW
UFA - 2

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Oct. 13, 2022 at 10:40 a.m.
#1
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2017
Posts: 8,090
Likes: 5,701
I think Orlov is great but the difference in term and age makes this a non starter
LittleBuddha and TJTwolf liked this.
Oct. 13, 2022 at 10:47 a.m.
#2
Thread Starter
809
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 13,090
Likes: 8,776
Quoting: UpsideDownQue
I think Orlov is great but the difference in term and age makes this a non starter


So it just wouldn’t work
TJTwolf liked this.
Oct. 13, 2022 at 10:52 a.m.
#3
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2015
Posts: 19,844
Likes: 11,951
Unless the Caps are giving up good young assets as well, like McMichael for example, there is no reason for the avs to do such a move
MeetYourMakar and TJTwolf liked this.
Oct. 13, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.
#4
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 800
Likes: 173
Girard to WSH -- orlov, lapierrex and a 2024 1st to AVS
Oct. 13, 2022 at 11:51 a.m.
#5
Rater of Value
Avatar of the user
Joined: Oct. 2017
Posts: 31,404
Likes: 29,802
Quoting: fil97
Girard to WSH -- orlov, lapierrex and a 2024 1st to AVS


That's pretty dreadful for Caps
NoVaSpartan and capsfan2121 liked this.
Oct. 13, 2022 at 11:56 a.m.
#6
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2016
Posts: 6,112
Likes: 2,239
I like Girard a lot but don't think Caps would make this move. Orlov is so freakn good.
Quoting: fil97
Girard to WSH -- orlov, lapierrex and a 2024 1st to AVS


LOL wat Caps probably don't even do Orlov for Girard straight up. No way they then offer their top prospect and a 1st as well.
NoVaSpartan and capsfan2121 liked this.
Oct. 13, 2022 at 11:58 a.m.
#7
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 800
Likes: 173
Quoting: justaBoss
That's pretty dreadful for Caps


yeah not saying this happens also because of the AVS salary situation... but imo this is fair value. Orlov will be 32 and an ufa at the end of the year, lapierrex who might be their second best prospect but isn't a great one (imo he's better then mcmicheal), and a 2024 first. Girard is a very good and young player locked up until he is 29 with a very reasonable cap hit.
Will27 and TJTwolf liked this.
Oct. 13, 2022 at 12:00 p.m.
#8
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 800
Likes: 173
Quoting: ClockReads2113
I like Girard a lot but don't think Caps would make this move. Orlov is so freakn good.

LOL wat Caps probably don't even do Orlov for Girard straight up. No way they then offer their top prospect and a 1st as well.



you are definitely overvaluing Orlov. Girard is the better player and younger and with the better and longer contract.what are you talking about
Will27 and TJTwolf liked this.
Oct. 13, 2022 at 12:00 p.m.
#9
Rater of Value
Avatar of the user
Joined: Oct. 2017
Posts: 31,404
Likes: 29,802
Quoting: fil97
yeah not saying this happens also because of the AVS salary situation... but imo this is fair value. Orlov will be 32 and an ufa at the end of the year, lapierrex who might be their second best prospect but isn't a great one (imo he's better then mcmicheal), and a 2024 first. Girard is a very good and young player locked up until he is 29 with a very reasonable cap hit.


I have to disagree. Yes Girard has more value due to having longer contract, but imo their difference is not this great. Orlov is the better player of the two. Value difference that is equivalent of multiple firsts is just way too big.
NoVaSpartan and UpsideDownQue liked this.
Oct. 13, 2022 at 12:01 p.m.
#10
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 800
Likes: 173
Quoting: justaBoss
I have to disagree. Yes Girard has more value due to having longer contract, but imo their difference is not this great. Orlov is the better player of the two. Value difference that is equivalent of multiple firsts is just way too big.


really don't see in what world Orlov is better at hockey the Girard but I respect your opinion!
Oct. 13, 2022 at 12:04 p.m.
#11
Rater of Value
Avatar of the user
Joined: Oct. 2017
Posts: 31,404
Likes: 29,802
Quoting: fil97
you are definitely overvaluing Orlov. Girard is the better player and younger and with the better and longer contract.what are you talking about


Not even close. Girard is perceived as an offensive D-man compared to much more defensive Orlov, yet Orlov had more points last year and is much better defensively. Girard's younger and due to term probably would fetch a higher price at the market, but calling him better than Orlov is very wrong.

Fe9iQwEX0AErXwi?format=jpg&name=small
Capitalfail67, capsfan2121, NoVaSpartan and 1 other person liked this.
Oct. 13, 2022 at 12:07 p.m.
#12
Caps fan idk why
Avatar of the user
Joined: Dec. 2016
Posts: 10,416
Likes: 4,049
Quoting: justaBoss
Not even close. Girard is perceived as an offensive D-man compared to much more defensive Orlov, yet Orlov had more points last year and is much better defensively. Girard's younger and due to term probably would fetch a higher price at the market, but calling him better than Orlov is very wrong.

Fe9iQwEX0AErXwi?format=jpg&name=small



Orlov is one of the most underrated Dmen in the NHL.hin and Jensen are easily our best pairing imo
justaBoss, capsfan2121, NoVaSpartan and 1 other person liked this.
Oct. 13, 2022 at 12:17 p.m.
#13
Thread Starter
809
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 13,090
Likes: 8,776
Quoting: ClockReads2113
I like Girard a lot but don't think Caps would make this move. Orlov is so freakn good.

LOL wat Caps probably don't even do Orlov for Girard straight up. No way they then offer their top prospect and a 1st as well.


I’m basing this off of one game yesterday. He wasn’t good at all. He will get his self together. He is sooo good. Just an idea I thought of
Oct. 13, 2022 at 1:11 p.m.
#14
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2015
Posts: 1,449
Likes: 1,255
Edited Oct. 13, 2022 at 4:51 p.m.
For the record: I think Orlov is awesome and one of the most underrated defensemen in the NHL. I also think Girard is very good, albeit a flawed player.

NHL teams don’t trade 24 year old top 4 defensemen with 5 more years of term for a 31 year old top 4 defenseman that is a pending UFA. Value isn’t here.
TJTwolf liked this.
Oct. 13, 2022 at 3:12 p.m.
#15
Avatar of the user
Joined: Sep. 2020
Posts: 1,476
Likes: 725
Orlov was the better player (by a relatively significant margin) last year and almost certainly will be this year. Not worth it for a Caps team that cares much more about this year than the next 3 after it.
capsfan2121 liked this.
Oct. 13, 2022 at 4:12 p.m.
#16
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2016
Posts: 6,112
Likes: 2,239
Quoting: capsfan2121
I’m basing this off of one game yesterday. He wasn’t good at all. He will get his self together. He is sooo good. Just an idea I thought of


Are you talking about Orlov or Girard? Because Orlov had an amazing game.
Oct. 13, 2022 at 6:03 p.m.
#17
Thread Starter
809
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 13,090
Likes: 8,776
Quoting: ClockReads2113
Are you talking about Orlov or Girard? Because Orlov had an amazing game.


Orlov had a terrible game. @NovaSpartan
Oct. 13, 2022 at 6:44 p.m.
#18
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2021
Posts: 220
Likes: 75
Quoting: capsfan2121
Orlov had a terrible game. NovaSpartan


He was fine for most of the game, however he was really bad when him and Carlson were on the ice together...Just keep him away from Carlson and he will be fine.

Carlson was easily the worst player on the ice...
Oct. 13, 2022 at 7:16 p.m.
#19
Thread Starter
809
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 13,090
Likes: 8,776
Quoting: MVC
He was fine for most of the game, however he was really bad when him and Carlson were on the ice together...Just keep him away from Carlson and he will be fine.

Carlson was easily the worst player on the ice...


orlov forcing things and his trunovers where the problem for me. had quite a few
Oct. 13, 2022 at 11:18 p.m.
#20
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2016
Posts: 6,112
Likes: 2,239
Quoting: capsfan2121
Orlov had a terrible game. NovaSpartan


uhhh nah he was very good.

Shot Attempts: 26-14
Scoring Chances: 11-9
High Danger Chances: 5-3
Expected Goal: 1.2 - 0.7
Oct. 13, 2022 at 11:35 p.m.
#21
Thread Starter
809
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 13,090
Likes: 8,776
Quoting: ClockReads2113
uhhh nah he was very good.

Shot Attempts: 26-14
Scoring Chances: 11-9
High Danger Chances: 5-3
Expected Goal: 1.2 - 0.7


eye test failed then
Oct. 13, 2022 at 11:59 p.m.
#22
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2016
Posts: 6,112
Likes: 2,239
Quoting: capsfan2121
eye test failed then


Even by the eye test he looked good. I guess you're just remembering the 4th goal scored against? But that's more on Carly.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 7:28 a.m.
#23
Thread Starter
809
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 13,090
Likes: 8,776
Quoting: ClockReads2113
Even by the eye test he looked good. I guess you're just remembering the 4th goal scored against? But that's more on Carly.


I just upkeep thinking of turnovers.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll