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Created by: BankersBox

Team: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 13, 2022

Published: Oct. 13, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I can forsee the Blackhawks being historically bad, pray they win the draft lottery so this season isnt a complete waste.

What if they are so bad that Kane has no one to pass too and has career lows approaching the deadline.

I am already preparing for a disappointing return on Kane. I fear there is no one on this team that can play at Kanes level. People will say hes regressing.

No one on offence stood out in the Colorado game.

Roos and Regula each had two very nice plays where they contained MacKinnon entering the offensive zone at full speed, then separated him from the puck. Small victories.

81 games left.

Free Agent Signings

CREATED	YEARS	CAP HIT
Kane, Patrick	1	$10,500,000
Kane, Patrick	1	$10,500,000
Kane, Patrick	1	$10,500,000
Kane, Patrick	1	$10,500,000

Trades

CHI

Othmann, Brennan
2023 1st round pick (DAL)

NYR

Kane, Patrick

Additional Details:

Use your imagination for how they make the Cap work

CHI

Dufour, William
2023 1st round pick (NYI)

NYI

Kane, Patrick

CHI

Greig, Ridly
Ostapchuk, Zack
2023 2nd round pick (OTT)

OTT

Kane, Patrick

CHI

2023 1st round pick (EDM)
2023 2nd round pick (EDM)

EDM

Kane, Patrick

CHI

Girard, Samuel
2023 1st round pick (COL)

COL

Kane, Patrick
Johnson, Jack

Buyouts

Brett Connolly: $1,166,667
Henrik Borgström: $83,334

Recapture Fees

Duncan Keith: $5,538,462

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$69,525,963	$237,500	$850,000	$12,974,037

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Lafferty, Sam $1,150,000$1,150,000 RW, C, LW UFA - 2	Domi, Max $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Raddysh, Taylor $758,333$758,333 RW RFA - 2
Athanasiou, Andreas $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Toews, Jonathan $10,500,000$10,500,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Johnson, Tyler $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Kurashev, Philipp $750,000$750,000 LW, C, RW RFA - 1	Johnson, Reese $800,000$800,000 RW, C RFA - 2	Entwistle, Mackenzie $800,000$800,000 LW, C RFA - 2
Dickinson, Jason $2,650,000$2,650,000 C, LW UFA - 2		Blackwell, Colin $1,200,000$1,200,000 C, RW UFA - 2
	Khaira, Jujhar $975,000$975,000 LW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Jones, Caleb $1,350,000$1,350,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Jones, Seth $9,500,000$9,500,000 RD NMC UFA - 8	Mrázek, Petr $3,800,000$3,800,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Roos, Filip $925,000$925,000 LD RFA - 2	Murphy, Connor $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Stalock, Alex $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Girard, Samuel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 5	Regula, Alec $866,667$866,667 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Robinson, Buddy $750,000$750,000 RW UFA - 1	McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3
Tinordi, Jarred $900,000$900,000 LD UFA - 1	Katchouk, Boris $758,333$758,333 LW RFA - 2
Vlasic, Alex $916,667$916,667 ($850,000$850K) LD UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Kurashev, P.		Toews, J.		Athanasiou, A.
	Raddysh, T.		Jones, S.

Power Play 2
Entwistle, M.		Domi, M.		Lafferty, S.
	Johnson, T.		Jones, C.

Penalty Kill 1
	Johnson, R.	Lafferty, S.
	Regula, A.	Jones, S.

Penalty Kill 2
	Toews, J.	Khaira, J.
	Jones, C.	Murphy, C.

Oct. 13, 2022 at 2:21 p.m.

UpsideDownQue

Joined: Aug. 2017

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Avs would go for Toews if anything, but they arent moving 5 years of Girard for a rental

Oct. 13, 2022 at 2:23 p.m.

BankersBox

Thread Starter

Joined: Feb. 2019

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fair enough.

Watching the game last night it looks like Colorado can survive without the smooth skating Girard.

Oct. 13, 2022 at 2:31 p.m.

bagelbob

Joined: Jul. 2021

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all those returns look pretty good? i don’t see how they’re disappointing

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Oct. 13, 2022 at 2:31 p.m.

Timmah007

Joined: Jun. 2020

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The problem with moving Kane on this site is his salary and people expect hawks to be compensated for taking back salary. I don't see that happening teams will be willing to pay a fair price for him but not paying an extra arm and a leg to make the cap work.

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Oct. 13, 2022 at 2:34 p.m.

BankersBox

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Quoting: bagelbob

all those returns look pretty good? i don’t see how they’re disappointing

I would be happy with any of these returns, but after the poor return on debrincat and how terrible chicago looks the price might be half of this at the deadline.

Oct. 13, 2022 at 2:41 p.m.

gavinray

Joined: May 2015

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I don't see us giving up Ridly ++ for a year of Kane.

Oct. 13, 2022 at 2:43 p.m.

BankersBox

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Quoting: gavinray

I don't see us giving up Ridly ++ for a year of Kane.

you can sign Kane for the extra year in the offseason and give him an 8 year extension

PLUS

Ottawa still owes Chicago from the Debrincat trade..

Oct. 13, 2022 at 2:53 p.m.

gavinray

Joined: May 2015

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Quoting: BankersBox

you can sign Kane for the extra year in the offseason and give him an 8 year extension

PLUS

Ottawa still owes Chicago from the Debrincat trade..

Don't have the cap space for that unfortunately LOL

Oct. 13, 2022 at 3:10 p.m.

mokumboi

Joined: Apr. 2019

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Quoting: BankersBox

fair enough.

Watching the game last night it looks like Colorado can survive without the smooth skating Girard.

Yeah, against Chicago. Not much of a hurdle there.

Oct. 13, 2022 at 3:49 p.m.

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Haymaker26

Joined: Jun. 2021

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Quoting: bagelbob

all those returns look pretty good? i don’t see how they’re disappointing

Kane is considered the greatest US-born NHLer. He's a first-ballot Hall of Famer, without question.
They're all good returns, yes, but at those prices, Chicago will have arguably gotten a higher return for Brandon Hagel than for Kane.
For a talent of Kane's level, even at his age and contract, the return should be seismic. These aren't.

Oct. 13, 2022 at 3:58 p.m.

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coga16

Joined: Jun. 2015

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avs dont touch that trade with a 10 foot pole

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Oct. 13, 2022 at 4:37 p.m.

#12

delneggs

Joined: May 2018

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Rangers don't even take that phone call

Oct. 13, 2022 at 4:41 p.m.

#13

Xqb15a

Joined: Aug. 2020

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Yeah COL isn’t doing that.

Oct. 13, 2022 at 4:51 p.m.

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bagelbob

Joined: Jul. 2021

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Quoting: Haymaker26

nah, the age and contract has to play a role here. tampa paid a premium for hagel because of the age, contract and term. these are all pretty premium returns for kane. the reality is he’s a rental. look at what philly got for giroux, these are all better than that (aside from maybe the edmonton deal). they feel pretty fair

Oct. 13, 2022 at 5:05 p.m.

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Scott162

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Joined: Jul. 2022

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As far hawks retaining 50% of Kane's contract most likely the cost would be a 2023 2nd. So Dufour 1st 2023 2023 2nd or another prospect. If a team wants a bad contract going back then the trade is expanded and go from there.

Oct. 13, 2022 at 10:48 p.m.

#16

ChrisNapoleon

Chris Peralta

Joined: Jun. 2021

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I'd say Islanders accept... but... We do have an older team, and I don't know if Lou would be willing to give up our future for Kane.
Now I'm not putting down Patrick Kane at all (He's in my top 5 favorite players of all time) but with how Lou has been operating the team for the past 4 years, I think he would give a different package for him.

But if it was me, I'd say include a prospect coming back to us and i'd include a 3rd or 4th pick with that

Oct. 14, 2022 at 12:45 a.m.

#17

Xspyrit

Joined: Jul. 2016

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Quoting: gavinray

I don't see us giving up Ridly ++ for a year of Kane.

It will be proven they were right to be so stubborn about Greig

Also, going after Kane is totally not what the Sens need to do

They signed a RW veteran already and his name is Claude Giroux.

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