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Created by: simonveilleux
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 1, 2022
Published: Dec. 1, 2022
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Trades
1.
NJD
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
2.
MTL
    Future considerations
    3.
    MTL
    1. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
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    Even if I doubt the Pens will be willing to trade another 1st, they badly need a defenseman with Letang indefinite absence. Edmundson can play RD.
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
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    2024
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    Logo of the COL
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    Logo of the MTL
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    2025
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$82,500,000$66,267,499$1,132,500$6,210,000$16,232,501
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    $880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $7,875,000$7,875,000
    C
    UFA - 8
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    $3,362,500$3,362,500
    C, RW
    RFA - 4
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    $950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $6,375,000$6,375,000
    C, LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $4,450,000$4,450,000
    C
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,700,000$1,700,000
    C
    UFA - 3
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $4,875,000$4,875,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,875,000$2,875,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
    LD/RD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $828,333$828,333
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $850,833$850,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
    G
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $762,500$762,500
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $766,667$766,667
    RD
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1

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    Dec. 1, 2022 at 4:39 p.m.
    #1
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    I'm warning ya, don't trade that 1st
    Dec. 1, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caufield
    I'm warning ya, don't trade that 1st


    The Panthers one?
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    Dec. 1, 2022 at 4:43 p.m.
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    This is the first Anderson trade I've seen with a 1st coming BACK with Anderson....but even still, I can't see any way Devils have interest in the Anderson contract.

    Some rando podcaster for the Habs blurts out the Devils are VERY interested, well I have bad news on that front for Habs fans.

    The Devils are a high analytics team, Anderson analytics stink.

    None of the Devils trades were actually forecasted. Anyone saying the Devils had interest in VV is just a shot in the dark knowing the Devils needed a goalie. Beyond that, no one saw the Siegenthaler or Marino trades coming. Not even the Ryan Graves deal had any leaks. So why would the Devils suddenly have openly leaked discussions on a bad analytic player with too large of a contract for his output??

    If anyone wants to look at John Marino underperforming last year....well...look at the cost the Devils gave up for him. They bought low, and he's been stellar. Any purchase of an underperforming Anderson wouldn't also come with the cost of a highly valuable asset.
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    Dec. 1, 2022 at 4:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: NJDevils1317
    This is the first Anderson trade I've seen with a 1st coming BACK with Anderson....but even still, I can't see any way Devils have interest in the Anderson contract.

    Some rando podcaster for the Habs blurts out the Devils are VERY interested, well I have bad news on that front for Habs fans.

    The Devils are a high analytics team, Anderson analytics stink.

    None of the Devils trades were actually forecasted. Anyone saying the Devils had interest in VV is just a shot in the dark knowing the Devils needed a goalie. Beyond that, no one saw the Siegenthaler or Marino trades coming. Not even the Ryan Graves deal had any leaks. So why would the Devils suddenly have openly leaked discussions on a bad analytic player with too large of a contract for his output??

    If anyone wants to look at John Marino underperforming last year....well...look at the cost the Devils gave up for him. They bought low, and he's been stellar. Any purchase of an underperforming Anderson wouldn't also come with the cost of a highly valuable asset.


    Forgetting analytics for a second, Anderson is the kind of guy that scares players in playoffs with his speed and heavy hits.
    He won't ever score 20+ goals, but the Devils badly needs a guy like him.
    Hughes, Bratt, Hischier, Tatar are going to get beat up by top teams like Bruins, Tampa, Vegas, etc.
    Dec. 1, 2022 at 5:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: simonveilleux
    Forgetting analytics for a second, Anderson is the kind of guy that scares players in playoffs with his speed and heavy hits.
    He won't ever score 20+ goals, but the Devils badly needs a guy like him.
    Hughes, Bratt, Hischier, Tatar are going to get beat up by top teams like Bruins, Tampa, Vegas, etc.


    Or the Devils could just outplay those teams, and score actual goals, instead of trying to hit them away?
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    Dec. 1, 2022 at 5:17 p.m.
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    Montreal is not interested in trading Anderson and they are most certainly not interested in adding a 1st
    Dec. 1, 2022 at 5:20 p.m.
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    How many times are we as Pens fans gunna say NO to this... GMRH says he does NOT want to move the 1st Rdr.. plus PIT have an abundance of NHL caliber D-men in depth
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    Dec. 1, 2022 at 5:28 p.m.
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    Quoting: loganocota
    How many times are we as Pens fans gunna say NO to this... GMRH says he does NOT want to move the 1st Rdr.. plus PIT have an abundance of NHL caliber D-men in depth


    The Pens don't BADLY need a dman. Habs fans are sometimes worse than Leafs fans on here.
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    Dec. 1, 2022 at 5:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: NJDevils1317
    This is the first Anderson trade I've seen with a 1st coming BACK with Anderson....but even still, I can't see any way Devils have interest in the Anderson contract.

    Some rando podcaster for the Habs blurts out the Devils are VERY interested, well I have bad news on that front for Habs fans.

    The Devils are a high analytics team, Anderson analytics stink.

    None of the Devils trades were actually forecasted. Anyone saying the Devils had interest in VV is just a shot in the dark knowing the Devils needed a goalie. Beyond that, no one saw the Siegenthaler or Marino trades coming. Not even the Ryan Graves deal had any leaks. So why would the Devils suddenly have openly leaked discussions on a bad analytic player with too large of a contract for his output??

    If anyone wants to look at John Marino underperforming last year....well...look at the cost the Devils gave up for him. They bought low, and he's been stellar. Any purchase of an underperforming Anderson wouldn't also come with the cost of a highly valuable asset.


    Tony Marinaro who started that rumour is not one to speak "out of school". He eluded to the fact that he has it on excellent info that there is significant interest. He has a record of calling these things over 20 years of reporting on the Habs and he knows reporters and hockey executives everywhere.

    I don't think you can discount this as though it's an Eklund rumour.
    Dec. 1, 2022 at 5:38 p.m.
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    Quoting: simonveilleux
    Forgetting analytics for a second, Anderson is the kind of guy that scares players in playoffs with his speed and heavy hits.
    He won't ever score 20+ goals, but the Devils badly needs a guy like him.
    Hughes, Bratt, Hischier, Tatar are going to get beat up by top teams like Bruins, Tampa, Vegas, etc.


    Anderson isn’t scaring anyone lol. Wood and Bastian are better hitters than Anderson.
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    Dec. 1, 2022 at 5:46 p.m.
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    Pens decline. Letang is out indefinitely but not forever. We can’t afford Edmundson even if we wanted to massively overpay for him. The pens have 8 nhl caliber defensemen not named Letang. 4 of those are right handed with Petry, Rutta, Ruhwedel, and Friedman.
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    Dec. 1, 2022 at 6:38 p.m.
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    Only way Penguins make that trade is if you swap out our first for either Dumo or Kappy.
    We don't need any defenseman even with Letang being out. We especially don't need to overpay for a below average defenseman with another year left on his deal.

    Devils take that deal if you retain half and swap out the Florida first for your own first. It costs a lot to dump bad contracts. Habs fans should know this since you got a first for one single season of Monahan
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    Dec. 1, 2022 at 7:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: jonh514
    Tony Marinaro who started that rumour is not one to speak "out of school". He eluded to the fact that he has it on excellent info that there is significant interest. He has a record of calling these things over 20 years of reporting on the Habs and he knows reporters and hockey executives everywhere.

    I don't think you can discount this as though it's an Eklund rumour.


    Habs fans should want this to be Eklund-esque rumor. Because if it’s legit, it only makes Kent’s operation look like a clown show.

    From the Devils perspective, there is zero chance we are offering Luke Hughes, Simon Nemec, Alex Holtz for a 4th liner making $5.5m x 5 years. These are not some random holdover prospects from the previous regime. These are Fitzy’s guys.
    Dec. 1, 2022 at 7:23 p.m.
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    I find it hilarious the number of people who think for a second MTL would pay to move Andersons "bad contract" tears of joy Like we're somehow strapped for cash paying a middle 6 winger middle 6 money...
    Dec. 1, 2022 at 7:28 p.m.
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    Quoting: simonveilleux
    Forgetting analytics for a second, Anderson is the kind of guy that scares players in playoffs with his speed and heavy hits.
    He won't ever score 20+ goals, but the Devils badly needs a guy like him.
    Hughes, Bratt, Hischier, Tatar are going to get beat up by top teams like Bruins, Tampa, Vegas, etc.


    Hughes has had a target in his back since he arrived in this league. Pretty much every game, some knucklehead takes an unprovoked run at him (as if they are the first to try). He has adapted and is better about protecting himself.

    Bratt has three fights on resume (Marchand, Grundstrom, one other). For a little guy, he has a surprising amount of scrap in him. His legs are like trunks too.

    Hischier isn’t small nor one to be intimidated. He’ll be fine.

    Tatar, we’ll find out I guess.
    Dec. 1, 2022 at 7:34 p.m.
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    Isles already have an Evgeni Dadonov at home, he's named Josh Bailey. If you want them to take that contract off your hands at full freight you're adding a significant pick - but seeing as how Montreal doesn't *need* to move any cap at this time, you should just hang on to him longer and see if he can manage to rebuild any sort of value.
    Dec. 1, 2022 at 8:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: simonveilleux
    Forgetting analytics for a second, Anderson is the kind of guy that scares players in playoffs with his speed and heavy hits.
    He won't ever score 20+ goals, but the Devils badly needs a guy like him.
    Hughes, Bratt, Hischier, Tatar are going to get beat up by top teams like Bruins, Tampa, Vegas, etc.

    NHL players aren’t afraid of anyone lol
    Dec. 1, 2022 at 9:10 p.m.
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    I could see the Isles taking Dadonov at the deadline. We have $13m in deadline cap space so in theory could fit him at full freight but not if they add other expensive pieces
    Dec. 1, 2022 at 10:36 p.m.
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    Quoting: Just_A_Guess
    I find it hilarious the number of people who think for a second MTL would pay to move Andersons "bad contract" tears of joy Like we're somehow strapped for cash paying a middle 6 winger middle 6 money...


    That’s fine if he isnt and maybe Fitz does “want” him bad but he won’t pay a first or top prospect for him. If that means the devils don’t trade for him that’s fine by us as fans and I’m sure Fitz will find another steal instead
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    Dec. 2, 2022 at 7:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: simonveilleux
    Forgetting analytics for a second, Anderson is the kind of guy that scares players in playoffs with his speed and heavy hits.
    He won't ever score 20+ goals, but the Devils badly needs a guy like him.
    Hughes, Bratt, Hischier, Tatar are going to get beat up by top teams like Bruins, Tampa, Vegas, etc.


    If the Devils are really that worried about getting beat up, then just call up Geersten for free
     
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