SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Give it a shot Ken

Created by: McPhee_Moustache
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 2, 2023
Published: Jan. 2, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Some of these trades are nice to have and I don't see them all coming true at the TDL but I do think that they are fair and wouldn't catch me too much by surprise if some did happen.
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Armia, Joel ($400,000 retained)
2.
MTL
  1. 2024 4th round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni ($2,500,000 retained)
3.
MTL
  1. Foote, Nolan
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. 2023 1st round pick (NJD)
4.
MTL
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
5.
MIN
  1. Johnsson, Andreas ($1,700,000 retained)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2024
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
2025
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$68,573,332$1,132,500$5,277,500$13,926,668
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Jan. 2, 2023 at 8:55 p.m.
#1
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 8,210
Likes: 3,641
So MN trades one of the best goalie prospects in the world for a guy who already passed through waivers and a 2nd? Easy pass
mokumboi, OldNYIfan, Digitalbooya06 and 2 others liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 8:59 p.m.
#2
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2021
Posts: 4,378
Likes: 2,241
Lol. Devils say BIG no
OldNYIfan and Tintin liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 9:04 p.m.
#3
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2018
Posts: 7,136
Likes: 3,490
A 2nd is what I think it should take to offload Zaitsev, but now you want to dump your cap dump on us as well?
mokumboi and OldNYIfan liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.
#4
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2022
Posts: 1,266
Likes: 689
Literally all of these are bad. Pretty impressive
OldNYIfan and Tintin liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 9:19 p.m.
#5
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2022
Posts: 2,615
Likes: 1,079
The Devils aren’t the team that’s taking rentals right now, unless it’s a bigger talent.

That MN trade is nutty though.
mokumboi, OldNYIfan and RazWild liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 9:26 p.m.
#6
mokumboi
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2019
Posts: 29,289
Likes: 11,366
Exactly one of these comes anywhere near the category of fair, and that's the WASH deal, which I highly doubt they'd go for. But geez, maybe if he heats up.

The rest are anything but fair, with the MINN one beyond brutal. Like... what?!? And expecting anything back for Armia's contract is also miles from fair.
OldNYIfan and RazWild liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 9:32 p.m.
#7
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 40,225
Likes: 18,366
Monahan costed Calgary a 1st to dump, now he costs a 1st+former 1st m to buy. What has he done in last few months to lead to such a big swing? (Net ~1sts?)
OldNYIfan, mokumboi and RazWild liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 9:33 p.m.
#8
Once a Kings Fan Too
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 40,356
Likes: 25,269
All teams have an easy No; some of them are of the "Are you kidding?" kind.

Puljujarvi is younger, better, and cheaper than Armia (even with the retention), and Edmonton can get out of his contract more easily.

With John Carlson's recent injury, Washington will be looking for help on defense, not at forward.

Hischier and Hughes seem to be working out pretty well at center; New Jersey doesn't need an expensive rental for #3C.

Ottawa might be eager to dispose of Nikita Zaitsev, but Jonathan Drouin is about the last guy they'd want in return.

The Wallstedt idea is intergalactically bad, for the reason mentioned above by @wabit.
mokumboi and RazWild liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 9:36 p.m.
#9
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 40,225
Likes: 18,366
(Also, Devils would do Johnsson + 2nd ++ for Wallstedt)
HeadHighSauce and Tintin liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 9:43 p.m.
#10
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2021
Posts: 4,894
Likes: 3,248
Quoting: sens65
A 2nd is what I think it should take to offload Zaitsev, but now you want to dump your cap dump on us as well?


I can see what OP did here. You need the space next season to resign Cat and we'd need to move a contract to fit him, 2yr dump for 1yr dump.

Wondering, would you consider using Lassi Thomson to dump Zaitsev if there was a little bit of something coming back? Or just Thomson instead?
sens65 and McPhee_Moustache liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 9:45 p.m.
#11
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2018
Posts: 7,136
Likes: 3,490
Quoting: Just_A_Guess
I can see what OP did here. You need the space next season to resign Cat and we'd need to move a contract to fit him, 2yr dump for 1yr dump.

Wondering, would you consider using Lassi Thomson to dump Zaitsev if there was a little bit of something coming back? Or just Thomson instead?


Perhaps, but I would have to see what other teams are offering.
Just_A_Guess liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 9:50 p.m.
#12
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2021
Posts: 4,894
Likes: 3,248
Quoting: sens65
Perhaps, but I would have to see what other teams are offering.


Just trying to get creative with a possible MTL destination for Zaitsev.

Hypothetically what would you need to be receiving to make it Zaitsev + Thomson? With the notion that we would send an expiring deal like Drouin or Dadonov to make it work with our cap while giving you the space next year.

Would a Dadonov + Wideman return be close, enough, or am I out to lunch?
sens65 and McPhee_Moustache liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 9:55 p.m.
#13
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2018
Posts: 7,136
Likes: 3,490
Quoting: Just_A_Guess
Just trying to get creative with a possible MTL destination for Zaitsev.

Hypothetically what would you need to be receiving to make it Zaitsev + Thomson? With the notion that we would send an expiring deal like Drouin or Dadonov to make it work with our cap while giving you the space next year.

Would a Dadonov + Wideman return be close, enough, or am I out to lunch?


Dadonov is a pure cap dump and Wideman is an AHLer so they don't have any appeal to us.

I might do Zaitsev and Thomson for Drouin and a 3rd.
Just_A_Guess liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 10:03 p.m.
#14
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2021
Posts: 4,894
Likes: 3,248
Quoting: sens65
Dadonov is a pure cap dump and Wideman is an AHLer so they don't have any appeal to us.

I might do Zaitsev and Thomson for Drouin and a 3rd.


Fair, honestly wasn't sure which of the 2 was more of a dump.

Would rather send a lesser player/prospect than a 3rd but I could live with it.
sens65 and EHMatt liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 10:09 p.m.
#15
mokumboi
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2019
Posts: 29,289
Likes: 11,366
Quoting: NHLfan10506
(Also, Devils would do Johnsson + 2nd ++ for Wallstedt)


Heh. Yeah... in their fantasies. tears of joy
Digitalbooya06 liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 10:23 p.m.
#16
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2017
Posts: 247
Likes: 35
Quoting: mokumboi
Heh. Yeah... in their fantasies. tears of joy


Armchair GM is pretty much the LOTR of Hockey Fantasy. So it sounds like we have a deal wink
Jan. 2, 2023 at 10:26 p.m.
#17
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2017
Posts: 247
Likes: 35
Quoting: Just_A_Guess
Fair, honestly wasn't sure which of the 2 was more of a dump.

Would rather send a lesser player/prospect than a 3rd but I could live with it.


Quoting: Just_A_Guess
Fair, honestly wasn't sure which of the 2 was more of a dump.


I like how this negotiation played out. It pretty much aligns with what I was angling towards with the original trade proposal.

Would rather send a lesser player/prospect than a 3rd but I could live with it.
Just_A_Guess liked this.
Jan. 2, 2023 at 11:35 p.m.
#18
Banned
Avatar of the user
Joined: Dec. 2022
Posts: 134
Likes: 32
Troll proposal
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll