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What is Horvats Value

Created by: CanucksTilliDIE
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 21, 2023
Published: Jan. 21, 2023
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There is 6 teams interested in Horvat. Just gauging what his value is for the said teams.

Seattle, Boston, New Jersey, Colorado, Minnesota, Carolina
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Carlo, Brandon
  2. Lysell, Fabian
  3. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
BOS
    Bo Horvat (Half Retained)
    2.
    VAN
    1. Jarvis, Seth
    2. Morrow, Scott [Reserve List]
    3. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
    CAR
      Bo Horvat (Half Retained)
      3.
      VAN
      1. Addison, Calen
      2. 2023 1st round pick (MIN)
      MIN
        Bo Horvat (Half Retained)
        4.
        VAN
        1. McLeod, Michael
        2. Nemec, Simon
        3. 2023 2nd round pick (NJD)
        NJD
          Bo Horvat (Half Retained)
          5.
          SEA
            Bo Horvat (Half Retained)
            6.
            VAN
            1. Newhook, Alex
            2. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
            COL
              Bo Horvat (Half Retained)
              Buyouts
              DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
              2023
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              2024
              Logo of the VAN
              Logo of the PHI
              Logo of the VAN
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              Logo of the VAN
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              2025
              Logo of the VAN
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              ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
              31$82,500,000$90,114,167$1,250,000$2,282,500-$7,614,167
              Left WingCentreRight Wing
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $5,250,000$5,250,000
              C, LW, RW
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $7,350,000$7,350,000
              C, LW
              UFA - 2
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $6,650,000$6,650,000
              RW
              UFA - 3
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $4,750,000$4,750,000
              LW, RW
              M-NTC
              UFA - 4
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $4,125,000$4,125,000
              C
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $4,950,000$4,950,000
              RW, LW
              UFA - 4
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
              LW, RW
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $825,000$825,000
              LW
              UFA - 2
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $1,000,000$1,000,000
              RW, C
              UFA - 3
              Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
              $908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
              C, LW
              RFA - 1
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $762,500$762,500
              C
              UFA - 2
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $762,500$762,500
              RW, C
              RFA - 2
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $750,000$750,000
              C
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $750,000$750,000
              RW
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the New Jersey Devils
              $975,000$975,000
              C
              RFA - 1
              Logo of the Boston Bruins
              $894,167$894,167
              RW
              RFA - 4
              Logo of the Seattle Kraken
              $950,000$950,000
              C
              RFA - 4
              Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
              $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
              RW
              RFA - 2
              Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $7,850,000$7,850,000
              LD
              UFA - 5
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $6,000,000$6,000,000
              RD
              M-NTC
              UFA - 2
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $762,500$762,500
              G
              UFA - 2
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $7,260,000$7,260,000
              LD
              NMC
              UFA - 5
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $1,800,000$1,800,000
              RD
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $750,000$750,000
              G
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Boston Bruins
              $4,100,000$4,100,000
              RD
              UFA - 5
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $850,000$850,000
              RD
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Minnesota Wild
              $795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
              RD
              RFA - 1
              Logo of the New Jersey Devils
              $950,000$950,000
              RD
              RFA - 4
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $1,500,000$1,500,000
              LD/RD
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $1,350,000$1,350,000
              LD
              RFA - 2
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $750,000$750,000
              LD/RD
              UFA - 1
              ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $5,000,000$5,000,000
              G
              UFA - 4
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $3,500,000$3,500,000
              LW, RW
              M-NTC
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $3,250,000$3,250,000
              LW
              M-NTC
              UFA - 2
              Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
              $2,500,000$2,500,000
              RD
              UFA - 3

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              Jan. 21, 2023 at 4:14 a.m.
              #1
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              BOS says no
              CAR says no
              MIN maybe if they can re-dig him which is doubtful
              NJD say no
              SEA says no
              COL says no
              Jan. 21, 2023 at 5:13 a.m.
              #2
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              These suggested trades are wildly in favour of the Canucks.
              No rental ever returns these egregious amounts of value.
              I'd be shocked if Horvat got much more than Claude frickin Giroux last season, 1st + B level prospect.
              Jan. 21, 2023 at 7:29 a.m.
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              I think he's worth 2 firsts from a playoff team.
              Jan. 21, 2023 at 7:48 a.m.
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              Boston doesn’t do that deal. Can’t afford to give up Carlo with the way they are playing. Just doesn’t make sense
              Jan. 21, 2023 at 8:17 a.m.
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              Boston isn't offering Carlo. Canucks fans need to move on from Carlo. Feels like for the last 3 years Canucks fans try and include him in 95% if their trades with Boston.
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              Jan. 21, 2023 at 9:03 a.m.
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              Divide what you have here by 2 or 3.
              Jan. 21, 2023 at 9:04 a.m.
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              Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
              I think he's worth 2 firsts from a playoff team.


              So unprecedented value. Sure. Whatever.
              Jan. 21, 2023 at 9:27 a.m.
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              Quoting: ON3M4N
              Boston isn't offering Carlo. Canucks fans need to move on from Carlo. Feels like for the last 3 years Canucks fans try and include him in 95% if their trades with Boston.


              Have you seen their Right Side? I’m surprised they aren’t begging for Liljegren anymore
              Jan. 21, 2023 at 9:28 a.m.
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              Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
              I think he's worth 2 firsts from a playoff team.


              He really isn’t
              Jan. 21, 2023 at 9:35 a.m.
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              Canuck fans, please for the love of everything, stop with these Nemec to Vancouver asks. He is untouchable. Doesn’t matter if it’s Horvat or Quinn Hughes, Nemec is going NOWHERE.

              Sincerely, every Devils fan
              Jan. 21, 2023 at 10:25 a.m.
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              Quoting: Tintin
              These suggested trades are wildly in favour of the Canucks.
              No rental ever returns these egregious amounts of value.
              I'd be shocked if Horvat got much more than Claude frickin Giroux last season, 1st + B level prospect.


              Huge difference is he had a NMC and he basically only wanted to go to FLA so not a great comp IMO. As all the reports are saying 6-7 teams are in on him, going to drive up the cost(not saying this post is it).
              Jan. 21, 2023 at 11:18 a.m.
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              The biggest asset in the return package should be a 2023 1st round pick that is likely to be in 25-32 range. Add a prospect or another mid pick. Maybe a roster player to clear a contract.

              Teams aren’t going to tee up guys like Nemec, Jarvis, Wright, etc.
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              Jan. 21, 2023 at 11:39 a.m.
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              Quoting: Tintin
              These suggested trades are wildly in favour of the Canucks.
              No rental ever returns these egregious amounts of value.
              I'd be shocked if Horvat got much more than Claude frickin Giroux last season, 1st + B level prospect.


              Giroux wasn’t in his prime on pace for 60 goals. Bo should definitely get more than him but short of what this post in proposing.
              Jan. 21, 2023 at 11:51 a.m.
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              Canes hang up immediately and block your number
              Jan. 21, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.
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              Pacioretty type return. A top prospect, 1st/2nd and a roster player.

              Horvat is a little younger and a C, which are plusses, but he doesn't have five 30 goal seasons to his name either.
              So the 2nd might be a 1st and/or the roster player coming back might be a little better than Tatar (who was perceived as a cap dump at the time).

              Replace Carlo with Smith and it's probably close enough, but you might be able to get someone a little more serviceable than Smith with a different team, it gives a rough idea.
              Jan. 21, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.
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              Quoting: DefenseFirst
              So unprecedented value. Sure. Whatever.


              Quoting: T0R
              He really isn’t


              The Leafs gave up a 1st+ for Nick Foligno. Florida gave up a 1st+ for Chiarot. I can definitely see Horvat being worth two 1sts.
              Jan. 21, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.
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              Quoting: T0R
              He really isn’t


              If Andre Copp is worth a first, second, prospect, and late pick, surely a far superior player like Horvat is worth more no?
              Jan. 21, 2023 at 1:29 p.m.
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              Quoting: Juiceman
              If Andre Copp is worth a first, second, prospect, and late pick, surely a far superior player like Horvat is worth more no?


              Just because one team overpays it doesn’t mean others will, especially a contender
               
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