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CRAZY Possibility

Created by: BadaBing
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 29, 2023
Published: Mar. 29, 2023
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HABS could offer sheet PLD which will force the Jets would have to match the offer sheet and keep PLD for 1 year and then he becomes a UFA.
If PLD really wants to come to MTL, this scenario guarantees the HABS get him for nothing given the JETS match to offer sheet

https://montrealhockeynow.com/2023/03/28/montreal-canadiens-possible-canadiens-negotiation-tactic-to-pry-pierre-luc-dubois-from-jets/
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$6,300,000
Offer Sheets
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Dubois, Pierre-Luc$6,300,000
2024 1st round pick
2024 3rd round pick
Buyouts
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$67,149,166$1,170,000$4,752,500$16,350,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$897,500$897,500 (Performance Bonus$557,500$558K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
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$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1

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Mar. 29, 2023 at 11:47 a.m.
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Lets give the jets a top 8 pick next year bruh lets do it, not like next year it could be a lotto unprotected pick.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 11:49 a.m.
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Jets should trade PLD to any team but the Habs and then offer sheet Caufield.
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Mar. 29, 2023 at 11:50 a.m.
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Quoting: AlakHul
Lets give the jets a top 8 pick next year bruh lets do it, not like next year it could be a lotto unprotected pick.


The JETS would match the offer sheet BRO. They won`t risk losing PLD for possible magic beans
Mar. 29, 2023 at 11:50 a.m.
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"With the 1st overall pick in then 2024 NHL Entry Draft, the Winnipeg Jets (via Montreal) are proud to select, Macklin Celebrini!"
Mar. 29, 2023 at 11:51 a.m.
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Quoting: BadaBing
The JETS would match the offer sheet BRO. They won`t risk losing PLD for possible magic beans


Jets are teetering on the edge of a huge sell off...magic beans or not, they're not going to handcuff themselves to him if this pops up.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 11:52 a.m.
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"With the 1st overall pick in then 2024 NHL Entry Draft, the Winnipeg Jets (via Montreal) are proud to select, Macklin Celebrini!"


LOL!!! You guys kill me. JETS match the offer sheet, it`s a given
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Mar. 29, 2023 at 12:00 p.m.
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Offer sheet is definitely a possibility for MTL and Dubois. However, it is not a good idea to give your 1st pick when you are a rebuilding team in a draft where the top 10 seems really good (Celebrini, Eiserman, Helenius, Demidov, Kiviharju, Catton, Cole Hutson, Caswell, Tanner Howe, Adam Jiricek, etc.)

The much more agressive idea is to do a 4,2M offer sheet with an agreement of a big 8 year contract (with a compensation for the pay cut).

The most passive option (and possibly the most plausible) is to wait until UFA 2024.
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Mar. 29, 2023 at 12:04 p.m.
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Quoting: BadaBing
LOL!!! You guys kill me. JETS match the offer sheet, it`s a given


Habs fans that keep racking their brains to come up with the most ridiculous PLD scenarios kill me...If PLD wasn't OS'd, and the Jets were able to trade him at the deadline, what do you realistically think they'd get? There'd probably be more quantity (late 1st, late 2nd, mid prospect?), but it certainly wouldn't involve what is pretty much guaranteed to be a top 10 pick.

Is it ideal? No. Would it set Montreal up for a similar fate down the road? Absolutely.
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Mar. 29, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.
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Or you just get pld to take his QO and not give them a 1st round pick.....
Mar. 29, 2023 at 12:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1
Jets should trade PLD to any team but the Habs and then offer sheet Caufield.


Nobody is signing an offer sheet coming from Winnipeg.
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Mar. 29, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.
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Nope
Mar. 29, 2023 at 12:58 p.m.
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What's in for Montreal with the offer sheet? Jets take the two picks and have cap to sign a centre.
Habs have PLD for one season (likely miss the playoffs even with PLD) and then PLD is a UFA. PLD then has Habs by shorts and curlies in contract negotiations. He can sign anywhere and Montreal will offer pay him just to justify the trade and trading of a lottery pick.
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Mar. 29, 2023 at 1:47 p.m.
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Quoting: LIRIK
Nobody is signing an offer sheet coming from Winnipeg.


Same could be said about Montreal.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 1:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1
Same could be said about Montreal.


Sebastian Aho accepted MTL' OS.
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Mar. 29, 2023 at 2:09 p.m.
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Sebastian Aho accepted MTL' OS.


Where does he play?
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Mar. 29, 2023 at 2:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1
Where does he play?


If CAR didn't match, he would be playing in MTL.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 2:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Reff
Sebastian Aho accepted MTL' OS.


I love how that OS worked out for you where you lost KK
Mar. 29, 2023 at 2:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Jobob77
Offer sheet is definitely a possibility for MTL and Dubois. However, it is not a good idea to give your 1st pick when you are a rebuilding team in a draft where the top 10 seems really good (Celebrini, Eiserman, Helenius, Demidov, Kiviharju, Catton, Cole Hutson, Caswell, Tanner Howe, Adam Jiricek, etc.)

The much more agressive idea is to do a 4,2M offer sheet with an agreement of a big 8 year contract (with a compensation for the pay cut).

The most passive option (and possibly the most plausible) is to wait until UFA 2024.


You forgot the part where dubois has to agree to take signifcantly below his value when his goal (stated for years) is to maximize his earnings. It's why he wants to hit UFA in the first place, bc UFAs get overpaid
Mar. 29, 2023 at 2:44 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
I love how that OS worked out for you where you lost KK


Did I say it was a smart move to OS Aho? Absolutely not. I think it was a dumb move.

Did I say I would have OS Aho? Absolutely not. I think it was a dumb move.

I only stated a fact: Aho signed MTL's OS. End of story.

CAR got their revenge by OS KK and MB deserved all of this. Good for them.

I don't get what this fuss is about.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 3:05 p.m.
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You forgot the part where dubois has to agree to take signifcantly below his value when his goal (stated for years) is to maximize his earnings. It's why he wants to hit UFA in the first place, bc UFAs get overpaid


He has to sign a one year deal before hitting UFA. I don't think he would mind earning 1M less for 1 year, then sign his long term contract in 2024 with MTL.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 3:05 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
You forgot the part where dubois has to agree to take signifcantly below his value when his goal (stated for years) is to maximize his earnings. It's why he wants to hit UFA in the first place, bc UFAs get overpaid


I forgot nothing

From what’s said, he doesn’t want to hit UFA to win 10 millions. He wants to play for MTL.

KK signed his 6 millions offer sheet knowing that he would sign a 8 year contract under his QO

Dubois could sign a offer sheet under his QO knowing that a 8 year long contract with a monetary compensation is coming.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 3:06 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
I love how that OS worked out for you where you lost KK


The idea of this OS is to force Jets to match so that PLD become a UFA after next year and HABS sign him without giving up any assets.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 3:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1
Same could be said about Montreal.


Aho signed the MTL offer sheet, so he wanted to play for MTL. I don't think it will ever happen in WPG.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 4:16 p.m.
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If CAR didn't match, he would be playing in MTL.


But they did, didn't they? Aho used it as a negotiating tool because he knew Carolina would match. And they the Habs GM was made to look the fool he was when the Canoes poached JK in response. Offersheets are a great idea because they always work and never have any consequences,
Mar. 29, 2023 at 4:17 p.m.
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Quoting: LIRIK
Aho signed the MTL offer sheet, so he wanted to play for MTL. I don't think it will ever happen in WPG.


Negotiation tool because he knew Carolina would match. No chance he wanted to play for the Habs. And how did the response from Carolina go?
 
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